Toned 2009 Bronze Cents

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by statequarterguy, Aug 27, 2012.

  1. statequarterguy

    statequarterguy Love Pucks

    I know the mint stated the 2009 Bronze Cents had a toning “problem”. But, is it a problem or a bonus? I put a set of eight (P's & D's) from a mint set in a Littleton album and WOW, all have toned with gorgeous rainbow target toning. I’ll take pics and post soon. So, what do you all think? Is this type of toning on these modern cents market acceptable or not?

    This set is begging for a Capital Holder (like they make for the War Nickels) with a white background to showcase them!
     
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  3. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    Such a tease, no photos?
     
  4. petro89

    petro89 Member

    I think the problem was with spotting on the coins...which definately was something that I noticed. Post some pics!
     
  5. statequarterguy

    statequarterguy Love Pucks

    Problem is I don't have a photo station set up. I'll try to get to it by this weekend.
     
  6. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    How old is the album? This is very interesting! Show us some pics!
     
  7. statequarterguy

    statequarterguy Love Pucks

    Ok, managed to take some pics that don’t do the coins justice with the setup & skills I have. But, you can get an idea of what the coins are doing. The coins actually toned very close to this within months of putting them in the album. The album is new, I ordered it from Littleton in 2010.
     

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  8. DM1

    DM1 Active Member

    It would be cool if they turned into woodies:cool:
     
  9. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    Wow, that's crazy that they turned that fast. How do you store the album?
     
  10. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    If they do, I'm buying one of those albums! That would be a dream come true for us woody collectors. :)
     
  11. statequarterguy

    statequarterguy Love Pucks

    Stored in the matching Littleton slip cover on a bookshelf, along with other unc LCM’s & unc wheat cents and those have only toned orange, none have toned with the colors these 2009’s show.

    So, back to the original question. Do you think the toning on these 2009’s is market acceptable or would you store them in Air-Tites right out of the mint set to keep them original? I personally like the toning and I’m debating whether or not to leave them a little longer in the album before “sealing” them in Air-Tites. But then, many scream AT when they see colorful toning on new coins (I didn't know they would tone like this, so it's not AT, lol). At some point I'll put more of these 2009's in this album and other albums to see if they all tone this way (whoops, that would be AT because now I know, lol).

    Also, why do you think these 2009’s are toning the way they are? The metal composition is the same as early Lincolns, so that shouldn’t be the cause. Were they coated/rinsed with something different at the mint to address their perceived toning problem? I did nothing to them before placing them in the album and I wore cotton gloves.
     
  12. d.t.menace

    d.t.menace Member

    I have ten sets of these in 2x2's in a 2x2 box and they're all still completely red with not a hint of toning. I would suspect the storage method for causing the toning and not something the mint did.
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    Just to add, in my coin and chronicles set the cents are toning. I believe it's the packaging that's causing the toning on them as both sets of coins are stored in the safe side by side.
     
  13. statequarterguy

    statequarterguy Love Pucks

    Yeah, maybe some combination of storage/the album and something the mint did to them, as none of my other Lincolns toned like this.

    So, what do you think, does this toning add value, do nothing for value, or hurt the value? Would the TPG'ers body bag them as AT?
     
  14. statequarterguy

    statequarterguy Love Pucks

    What type of 2x2's are these in, cardboard/mylar, hard plastic, or?
     
  15. DM1

    DM1 Active Member

    I have 2 sets of '09 proofs : 1 in OGP, 1 in slabs. It will be interesting to see what happens with them.
     
  16. Billyray

    Billyray Junior Member

    A woodie isn't toning per se, it's when the alloy isn't mixed properly and the differences in metal tones at different rates.

    From coneca's definitions

     
  17. d.t.menace

    d.t.menace Member

    The ordinary cardboard/mylar.
     
  18. DM1

    DM1 Active Member

    I know, I was thinking since they haven't made them in bronze for many years, maybe they didn't mix the metals properly due to lack of experience, probably not likely but there's always a chance...
     
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