is this war nickle fake?

1943 P. it looks like it has casting bubbles on both the obverse and reverse, both fields and devices, but the rim is clean. if not, what caused this to the die on both sides, to both field and device, at the same time?

 

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looks like circulation wear. looks legit

 

ive never seen circulation give a coin the mumps.

 

these are raised bumps.

 

could be some sort of error then, or pmd

 

It may be a Henning. Here is a link...
http://www.numismaticenquirer.com/TNE/Henning Counterfeit Nickel.html

 

Henning's didn't have the mintmark above Monticello. And I think it's the wrong date too.

 

Hennings don't have the P above Monticello.

 

See if the bubbles flake off. Given the amount of apparent wear on the piece, any bubbles from a possible counterfeiting process should have worn off. I bet it's real and just has stuff on the surfaces.

 

first thing i tried. it reminded me of plating blisters. they are solid. i cant scratch them off.

 

it weighs right. 4.9 grams. either both dies got splashed by a corrosive, was pitted very badly somehow on both die or the planchet was like this before it was minted. they are a part of the coins surface.

 

I was about to post...

"Who on earth would ever counterfeit a war nickel?"

Live and learn.

I'm dusting off my metal detector and waders...and heading to Copper Creek!

 

I can't see why anyone would bother faking a war nickel in this condition. The only way it would be worth it would be if they faked them in very high grades, but then at that point I think it would be fairly obvious they were fake.

I'd say it is real.



Edit: Just saw the link for the Henning nickel. I wonder what was going through his head when he thought counterfeiting nickels was a good idea?

 

Why would somebody fake a 1964D Jefferson? No reason.. but they did, I have one and its OBVIOUS!!!.

 

A common way of creating dies is by casting them. If there were bubbles on the die face during the casting they would form depressions in the die face and those depressions would cause raised lumps on the coin that would wear the same as the other features. The lumps on this coin are in protected areas and would not have worn away until the surrounding features were also worn away. Not saying this coin is a fake, just that lumps from counterfeiting don't always wear off that easily.

 

i would imagine that he figured he would be able to do it for as long as he wanted. i dont know how many a minute he could mint, but the silver in them at that time was worth less than a nickle i imagine. say, a three cent planchet, you turn it into a nickle, you make 2 cents each time. not much now, but back then, if you made enough, who knows.

 

yup. the majority of them are in low spots on the devices and in protected areas of the fields.

 

they are EVERYWHERE they can hide on this coin. and they are not chips, they are bubbles. weird. i would have liked to have seen this coin when is was uncirculated.

 

Is it silver? Henning's fakes including the 1944's were a nickel alloy not silver. And even if the nickels were silver why would the counterfeiter make war nickels with it. With the same amount of silver for every 9 nickels he made ($0.45) he could make 7 dimes ($0.70)