Does toning on coins worth melt increase the value?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by buddy16cat, Aug 19, 2012.

  1. buddy16cat

    buddy16cat Well-Known Member

    I found this coin below in a roll of dimes. I know the coin is worth melt but was wondering does toning increase the value of coins like this? The toning red with a litte blue.
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  3. bsowa1029

    bsowa1029 Franklin Half Addict

    I don't the that coin would get a toning premium. That doesn't look very good.

    To answer your question, yes attractive naturally toned coins usually will sell for a premium.
     
  4. The toning increases the value if someone is willing to pay a premium for it.
     
  5. Taxidermist

    Taxidermist Collector of US/IL/RU/DE

    The following line will answer a lot of questions and save the creation of hundreds of threads:

    It should be in the header under CT logo or something.
     
  6. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    I would like to refer you to the following thread.

    Read more: http://www.cointalk.com/t135678/#ixzz2433er9uV

    For the coin you posted, it is not attractive enough to warrant a premium.
     
  7. buddy16cat

    buddy16cat Well-Known Member

    Right, I see people paying premiums on Ebay all the time on coins that normally sell at melt at a shop. Obviously people are willing to pay a premium on Ebay on some coins. I generally wouldn't pay premiums on Washingtons, Franklins, Roosies, or Kennedy's over melt. Like these coins below I also found might go for a premium over melt. I dealer of course would only pay spot or below spot. The red toned coin above looks much better in person, I would have to represent that in a picture since my scanner is not picking up the toning right.
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  8. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins Supporter

    Pics sell the coin Buddy. If you can't bring it out, no cigar......
     
  9. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    Roosevelt Dimes are common as dirt even with toning. In order to fetch a significant premium you need to have attractive toning. Here are some examples that I have sold this year.

    Monster Toned: Numismedia Retail $16--Sale Price $95--Premium 6X

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    Dramatic Monochromatic Toning: Numismedia Retail $52--Sale Price $90--Premium 1.7X

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    Mottled Obverse with Attractive Reverse Toning: Numismedia Retail $71--Sale Price $80--Toning Premium 1.1X

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    Typical Toning (Attractive to some, Unattractive to others): Numismedia Retail $69--Sale Price $60--No Toning Premium

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    Now consider that everyone of these coins were certified gems or premium gems. The chance that you will get a premium for a raw toned Roosevelt Dime is slim unless it falls into the dramatic or monster toned category.
     
  10. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    "The <put condition/state of your coin here> increases the value if someone is willing to pay a premium for it."


    Even better, lets just say that "the coin is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it" and save the hassle...



    Buddy,

    It's worth whatever you believe. Now just try selling it for that.

     
  11. buddy16cat

    buddy16cat Well-Known Member

    I know what you mean, the red color in person is nice on this coin and I popped out that year from my Whitman album and replaced it with this one. This scan on the other hand, is not very attractive. Holding it to the light and using my camera or webcam might do it justice. It isn't really great, but for a roll find it is nice. It is true though that toning only increases value if someone is willing to pay a premium for it. I know dealers only pay melt or below melt for silver roosies. What do I believe my nicer roosies are worth? I really don't know, that is why I asked. I would have to put it up for auction to find that out really but have noticed people tend to pay more than I would for silver on Ebay because I can get a good deal at my local pm dealer. I don't really know much about toning though but from what people say here, it is highly subjective and there is no set value outside of how much extra someone will pay for it. Best put it up for auction starting at melt and see if someone will pay more. Someone will pay melt for it. I am certainly happy with melt since I just found 16 roosies in three bank rolls, 9 in one roll. That certainly isn't common today even though roosies are pretty common. As far as threads being created, you really don't have to read all threads if you don't want to read it. Roosies generally only sell for melt and are all common, common enough I found about 9 in one roll of dimes, and 18 total in 4 rolls of dimes alone the last few days.
     
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