The reason that eBay Buyer Protection exists

The auction I "won":
http://www.ebay.com/itm/130735739045?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

The coins that were actually delivered:


I diplomatically complained to seller about the fast one he's trying to pull here, and no response.

Been buying and selling on eBay for quite awhile, and it's the first time I've had something like this happen.

To those of you I outbid on this item, you're welcome. I just saved you a hassle.

 

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A couple red flags, seeing as how the seller can't spell "wheat" is a flag. And the fact that the seller copied and pasted different cent photos from other sources is another. They're all taken in different spots/locations. This auction didn't make sense anyways. Time for you to file a chargeback and send an "item not described" complaint to eBay.

 

I guess he thought you wouldn't notice.

Here is his description though. Not every day you can get four weat pennys in good condision


1916,1917,1917 D,1918 weat penny set what a set up four pennys in good condision what a great way to add or start a weat penny or coin collection!!

 

File the SNAD and make sure that feedback does not stay at 100% postive.

 

Wow...this guy is a real piece of work.

One of his items photos (from feedback) have a watermarked image from another eBay seller!

He copied photos from eBay user masterjedinorth.

He's stealing images, using poor grammar, forgot filing a SNAD, you should report him to eBay! Using other's images, ESPECIALLY watermarked ones, are a big no no, and eBay should pull the plug on him in a NY second.

 

+1, leave negative feedback!

 

I contacted masterjedinorth and told him about the stolen photos, hopefully if he calls in, and the OP calls in, it will make him go away quicker.

 

+2

I predict he will be NARU very soon.

 

How pitiful. All that for a whopping $13 sale, but nothing surprises me anymore.

 

Here's his description for a '45 merc:

"1945 plane mercury Dime in good condition this is a nice piece to start or add to your collection !!!! this dime is printed out of philidelphia mint."

 

Sorry, but won't happen. The only one who can report him for steeling images would be the original owner of the image (exception being public domain images). If he used your image, he loses in a heart beat. If he uses someone else's image (watermarked or not), you have no standing to report it. At best, all you have is hearsay that he does not have permission to use the image and, most likely, you have no evidence that he does not have permission to use the image.

 

My thoughts exactly...

 

The seller should stick with plants. But then again who is to say those are legit sales.

 

Well, I contacted the seller, reasonably requesting that the seller refund the final bid price plus shipping plus any costs I incur in returning the item. The seller went out of his/her way to be a <redacted>, acting surprised that I was unsatisfied with my purchase and only offering refund of the final bid but no shipping. So, I escalated it, and I will most definitely be leaving negative feedback.

Lesson learned, I guess. I suppose I should have noticed the red flags and not bid. That's what I get for assuming that a seller would have better sense to include pictures of some near-mint state coins but then sells well-worn coins that are G-4 on a good day. Even if one isn't familiar with coins, wouldn't one have more common sense than that? It would be like selling a used book on eBay, showing a picture of a new one, and delivering one with a few pages ripped out and coffee stains on the rest, and then acting shocked when the buyer complained. Confounding.

 

WOW! That is pathetic.....big fat negative time.

 

If you read the four words in red after "weat penny set" you will see he was actually telling the truth.

"what a set up" indeed.

 

Wow, those are some nice coins!! In the original photo at least.

 

Again, maybe I shouldn't have bought, I don't see why I should bear any expense beyond my annoyance and hassle in fixing the problem. I'm not the one that set out to defraud.

As far as the fact that the seller never specifically stated that the coins pictured were not for sale, that's not a valid defense. First off, according to eBay policy, sellers "can't include pictures that don't accurately represent the item for sale" and are "not allowed to include conflicting or misleading product information in a listing." (See Selling Practices Policy at http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/selling-practices.html). The seller here violated both of those policies.

Second, there is no other reason to include a picture in a listing of a coin for sale except as to show the condition of the coin being sold.

Thus, in line with eBay policies and the dictates of common sense, the pictures a seller includes are part of the listing and part of the product description. If one includes pictures of high grade coins, then those same high grade coins are what he/she is representing is for sale. Here, the seller did not deliver what was described, plain and simple. If the seller wishes to use stock images but sell a coin not specifically pictured, it is up to the seller to explicitly disclaim that the picture is that of the coin.

I think I was entitled to rely on the pictures in the listing despite the reg flags in the listing. Typos alone aren't enough to poo-poo a listing, and I know I've listed items myself with innocuous typos.

All I can say is that the seller is lucky he/she is not in Texas, or I would have really laid down some retribution, and soaked them for 3x the value of the coins actually pictured plus attorney's fees under Texas' consumer protection laws.

Maybe I'm putting in too much of my time over $13, but it's the principle of the matter, and I feel I owe it to the hobby to keep people like this moral-less, unapologetic, scamming [insert appropriate expletive here] far, far away from eBay.

 

One more thing... does anyone know if you can include a hyperlink in the feedback for a seller? 80 characters isn't enough to fully describe the problem I had and the extent to which the seller went out of his/her way to be a jerk on this one, and I'd like to fully explain this d-bag's attempt to fleece me on a webpage linked from the feedback.

 

Sorry, but 80 characters is the limit.

And you are absolutely correct. eBay requires the seller to show a picture of THE coin being sold, but they do exclude bulk sales.