Does brockage errors only apply to modern coinage?

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  1. kookoox10

    kookoox10 ANA #3168546

    I'm just curious if anyone has seen older coins before the advent of modern presses with brockage errors? With early screw presses, I'm sure not many mint employees would miss a planchet stuck on one of the dies before striking the next coin. And does anyone have examples of some early brockage pieces if they did exist?
     
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  3. medoraman

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    Heck, they are fairly common on Roman Republicans. I believe silver made a brockage more likely due to it being softer and sticking to the dies more easily. Stainless here had one, I believe a few other ancient collectors had at least one as well. Heck, I saw about 6 pages in an auction catalog once that were all someone's RR brockage collection being sold off.
     
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  7. beef1020

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    It is amazing isn't it! And it realized $5k+ at auction. Here is another one from that sale, an 1800 which realized $14k+:

    http://images.goldbergauctions.com/php/lot_auc.php?site=1&sale=60&lot=401

    Last time I was at the Baltimore show Chris McCawley had a real nice reverse brockage, I believe it was a turban head, in his case. If you like seeing these and get out to a big show it's worth looking for him.
     
  8. kookoox10

    kookoox10 ANA #3168546

    Chris has some amazing coppers, a couple years ago I was negotiating with him on a real nice 1804 restrike. Just couldn't come to terms, but he finds some of the most incredible pieces. I wasn't surprised he had a couple of these brockage large cents.
     
  9. copout1340

    copout1340 New Member

    Good evening,




    About a year ago I purchased an estate collect and I'm still going through it. Today I was sorting through a lot of Large Cents and found an 1825 US Large Cent. The condition isn't bad at all, most of the details are good (see attached photos), but this one is special. Both sides are reversed (backwards). If you were just to take a fast look, you would think it was a regular Large Cent. The date on the front is backwards, and the profile is facing right instead of left, and the word 'liberty' is backward. On the reverse, everything is incused and the printing is again backwards. If you were to put it up to a mirror and look at both sides, it would be a standard 1825 Large Cent.
    I only found information about one side being brockaged, with the reverse stamp being the same at the front. This one is a complete Large Cent, except it is all backwards. The weight is 9 grams, but I weighed a couple other Large Cents and they are also 9 grams (my scale may be off). No size difference, everything looks normal (except the backwards part).
    Have you ever seen this???
    Hope you can answer this for me.
    Thanks for your time,
    Robert
     

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  10. copout1340

    copout1340 New Member

    Good evening,
    About a year ago I purchased an estate collect and I'm still going through it. Today I was sorting through a lot of Large Cents and found an 1825 US Large Cent. The condition isn't bad at all, most of the details are good (see attached photos), but this one is special. Both sides are reversed (backwards). If you were just to take a fast look, you would think it was a regular Large Cent. The date on the front is backwards, and the profile is facing right instead of left, and the word 'liberty' is backward. On the reverse, everything is incused and the printing is again backwards. If you were to put it up to a mirror and look at both sides, it would be a standard 1825 Large Cent.
    I only found information about one side being brockaged, with the reverse stamp being the same at the front. This one is a complete Large Cent, except it is all backwards. The weight is 9 grams, but I weighed a couple other Large Cents and they are also 9 grams (my scale may be off). No size difference, everything looks normal (except the backwards part).
    Have you ever seen this???
    Hope you can answer this for me.
    Thanks for your time,
    Robert
     

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