My first seated liberty, thoughts?

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  1. tdogchristy90

    tdogchristy90 Dieu et les Dames

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  3. HULLCOINS

    HULLCOINS Junior Member

    I am not too fond of the porous nature/Environmental damage. Looks dug to me. I don't think it would ever grade. JMO.
     
  4. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    You should be able to find a common date seated liberty half in VF25 for about $50 and an EF for about double that amount. Here is a link depicting those grades:
    http://coinauctionshelp.com/how_to_grade_seated_dollars.html

    The Ebay coin net grade is below VF25 IMO. Also, there is detail in the hair that is indicative of a higher grade coin but apparent wear on the legs & body that would correspond to a lower grade coin. That is strange for a genuine coin but it might have been dug as previously mentioned.

    When you receive it, see what it weighs (without voiding your return policy).
     
  5. tdogchristy90

    tdogchristy90 Dieu et les Dames

    Just curious, what do you mean by environmental damage and dug. I know there is toning and general damage that occures over time from the environment. But in this case what are you looking at? Thanks.
     
  6. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    Bobby is a good buddy + also run CCF coin forum.
    but his photo maybe to dark but a nice uncleaned looking seated half.
    :smilepost a new set of photos when you get the coin.:thumb:
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  7. kookoox10

    kookoox10 ANA #3168546

    Environmental damage usually refers to a coin that has been buried for a while, the elements, the acidity of the soil corroding the surfaces of the coin. This one looks like it was a metal detecting find, the coin exhibits the natural pitting in the fields to warrant being buried. It is a nice VF details coin, probably was an AU or MS piece before being lost in the dirt for over 100 years.
     
  8. tdogchristy90

    tdogchristy90 Dieu et les Dames

    Ok, thanks slot kook! And jello thank you for the encouragement! I'll definitely get more of a feel once it's in hand.
     
  9. kookoox10

    kookoox10 ANA #3168546

    No problem, you didn't do too badly for the price. A true high VF, like a 30 or 35 is a $75 coin. So you did okay :thumb:
     
  10. HULLCOINS

    HULLCOINS Junior Member

    This is not damage caused by toning. Sorry for being so blunt in the beginning. I would start out getting them previously graded, or just looking at many graded examples before going in on a raw coin.
     
  11. tdogchristy90

    tdogchristy90 Dieu et les Dames

    You weren't blunt hull, it's ok. Thanks for the help. I do do my best to grade but I am only human.
     
  12. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

  13. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    With all due respect, no... the coin is worth nowhere near what he paid and he will never get as much out of it unless passed on to another newbie. This is a very common, easily obtainable date, so there is no reason to settle for anything less than a no-problem, gradable example. Even if cost is an issue, simply settle for a slightly lesser grade or another common date if he just wants a type coin. The OP would be wise to return the coin, continue his search elsewhere, and consider a certified example.
     
  14. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    $50 might've been a tad too high.

    I do think it's an ok "learning experience" type coin if you don't decide to return it or anything like that.

    I suggest looking at many original, (not cleaned or damaged) examples in hand. Starting out with getting some examples that are already graded might also be the way to go, as others have suggested.
     
  15. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    I agree with Books and Hull--whatever the source of the damage,it is a problem coin. It certainly isn't remotely close to EF, and would not be a candidate for a slab, unless one wanted it in "VF details" plastic. As a type coin, one can do much better. The toning isn't overwhelmingly attractive for the type--a wee bit dark and murky. Lots of nice non-problematic coins out there.
     
  16. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    That was the point of the link I posted to 33 other 1877 VF examples. I must admit that in earlier times, I also purchased similar problem seated half dollars. I did this because the coins were basically made available to me at a price I could afford & I needed the types for my collection. I didn't shop around & search the best example before I committed to each purchase. (I do have more restraint today :rolleyes:). Recently someone here referred to this spent money as tuition we spend on our own numismatic education. I know that I have spent my fair share of tuition money.
     
  17. Tom B

    Tom B TomB Everywhere Else

    Unfortunately, the coin is severely corroded. That is strong money for a piece with this negative surface feature.
     
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