Chinese Dragons and Junk Dollar Help Needed

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by Cazkaboom, Jul 9, 2012.

  1. Cazkaboom

    Cazkaboom One for all, all for me.

    Hey all foreign lovers! I just got these from my aunt and I was wondering if you guys can help me value them and date them for me? I have no understanding of the inscriptions on them, so I need help!
    I do know the junk dollar is cleaned, so bummer for me.
    Here's the pics:
    China Large.jpg
    China Small.jpg
    Junk Dollar.jpg


    ~Cannyn
     
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  3. willieboyd2

    willieboyd2 First Class Poster

    These are common Chinese silver dollar sized coins, if authentic.

    The first two are from the early 1900's, the third is from the 1930's.

    Unfortunately, these coins have been counterfeited in China for many years, made out of metals other than silver.

    They should be physically examined by someone who knows about coins.

    The Krause catalogs give weights of authentic coins, some counterfeits weigh much less.

    :)
     
  4. Cazkaboom

    Cazkaboom One for all, all for me.

    Well, I forgot to weigh them, but I brought them to the shop with a metallurgical gun and they said it is silver.
    Can't weigh them until next time I go to a shop which will be in a week or two.

    If it is of any help, there are no casting lines on the edges.
     
  5. cciesielski01

    cciesielski01 Laced Up

    I'd say they look more authentic than the one I have which sticks to a magnet and has the silver plating coming off. Lol
    cody
     
  6. gxseries

    gxseries Coin Collector

    Prices are all over the place for them - assuming if they are genuine.

    First coin - Beiyang (Peiyang) coin dated 1908 (I think). Looks genuine, could be worth up to 400-600 dollars.
    Second - Kwangtung (Guangdong) 1.44 mace 1890 - 1908. Quite common, possibly 20 dollars or so.
    Third - Republic of China 1 yuan. Looks genuine as well, 1934. 200 dollars I guess?

    Once again, I need to know the weight of them as well as photos of the edge.
     
  7. Cazkaboom

    Cazkaboom One for all, all for me.

    Thanks, I told my dad and he said we might go to the shop to get it checked out Friday. Until then, I am going to shoot a video of the edges.
     
  8. Cazkaboom

    Cazkaboom One for all, all for me.

    Got the video loaded, sorry for the rugged quality, but it is what I can do with my point 'n Shoot.
    [video=youtube;AaU23dxJOEc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaU23dxJOEc&feature=youtu.be[/video]
     
  9. gxseries

    gxseries Coin Collector

    I forgot to ask - what is the exact weight of them in grams? Please post with two digit figures if possible. Edge wise, it looks ok but I still need better details. Much easier seeing it in hand.
     
  10. Cazkaboom

    Cazkaboom One for all, all for me.

    I'll get that to you Friday.
     
  11. clorox

    clorox Member

    The middle coin looks like the 1890-1908 Kwangtung province 20 cents. I see one obvious flaw with the coin: Your coin does not have a hyphen between "Kwang" and "Tung", while all other pictures of that coin do have a hyphen. I am by no means an expert, I'm just saying it's unusual to me.
     
  12. Cazkaboom

    Cazkaboom One for all, all for me.

    Welp, brought it to be tested. It fits the shoe. Both weigh 26.7g and are silver. :hail:

    Oh, and the 20 cent was authentic, but you are right about the dash. Grease, Maybe?
     
  13. willieboyd2

    willieboyd2 First Class Poster

    The Sun Yat Sen dollar, if authentic, could have been made in America.

    In 1949 the three US mints struck 30,000,000 of them for the Republic of China.

    :)
     
  14. Cazkaboom

    Cazkaboom One for all, all for me.

    Is there any way to be sure?
    This is intriguing :)
     
  15. willieboyd2

    willieboyd2 First Class Poster

    Be sure of what?

    :)
     
  16. Cazkaboom

    Cazkaboom One for all, all for me.

    Be sure they are minted in the US. That is what I would like to know. Any special die marks or ways to tell if it is?
     
  17. willieboyd2

    willieboyd2 First Class Poster

    There is no way to tell the 1949 Sun Yat Sen dollar resrikes from the 1934 originals.

    The original 1934 dies were made in Philadelphia and were used in 1949.

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    However, this one is from 1934 as it appeared in the 1937 MGM film "The Good Earth".

    :)
     
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