1884 indian head penny ms 65 + ?

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found this today what grade you guys think it is ?

 

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ill try to get a better face pic need a macro lenes though anyways thanks for the replys in advance

 

No.

 

its dmpl to the pictures dont do it justice

 

You'll never be able to tell if you take pictures in a 2x2. The marks on the plastic reflect and make it look like scratches on the coin.

 

k will retake the pictures and thanks for the reply

 

where did you find it? the box, I mean

 

estate sale couple years ago just now going though it lol

 

was it a box of wheats, indians, or unsorted? cause if you got that in a box of unsorted pennies...

 

Positively not DMPL. Not 65. And IMO cleaned. In fact, I would guess polished since you think it is DMPL.

 

the reason i said dmpl is cause it bounces light really well and i can see objects reflect in the coin.. out all the pennys that were in this collection this one was eye catching

 

That is what I figured. That is why I said it was polished. Here is a DMP for comparison.

 

thank you for your replies rim !!! anyhow its still a better coin than i have for that year so its going in the personal collection

 

ms65 was overstating this coin but I still im thinking its a ms63 - 64

 

What is IMO please?

 

In My Opinion.
I would say it has UNC details but has been cleaned

Cody

 

how do know if its been cleaned? what are the tell -tell signs? im sure thats been asked a billion times over

 

I see no original luster present and the surfaces have a mirror appearance. It might just be the pictures but that's my opinion based on the images provided

 

gotcha and thank you for your reply and yes I need to get alot better with the camera