About to leave my first neg ever on eBay

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Merc Crazy, Jun 24, 2012.

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  1. Tinpot

    Tinpot Well-Known Member

    was there percent still over 98% or so though? The only people I've seen with that many negs have had tons of transactions so there percent was still pretty high.

    Probably depends if the negative was really earned before. I've seen the sellers who sell basically junk plated silver gold and other worthless trinkets. They tend to get a lot of negatives but usually if you read the entire listing and the fine print you shouldn't really be surprised that you bought worthless junk.
     
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  3. usc96

    usc96 Junior Member

    Seller made a mistake. You knew it was a mistake. Now you want to screw the seller because someone tried to screw you in a similar way in the past and instead of calling them out on their BS, you let them. Not cool dude!!!

    There is a first year of law school contract law principle known as Mistake. This is the exact situation where Mistake applies. Obviously there was no meeting of the minds (because they meant to start their auction at $9, not set a BIN at $9), so no contract.
     
  4. silentnviolent

    silentnviolent accumulator--selling--make an offer I can't refuse

    What's this supposed to mean exactly? Spell it out for me because your literacy so outweighs mine. Your antagonistic posts are uncalled for and unproductive. RICHARD.
     
  5. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    Every business is excused from obvious mistakes in advertizing, pricing and just about any other thing. Absolutely no court would require the seller to fulfill that contract. I suppose that it is Merc Crazy's right to leave a negative, but he will not be doing it with me because I just blocked him.

    BTW, Yes he has been buying and selling on eBay for six years, but he only has a total feedback of 38. I have that much this month.
     
  6. Tinpot

    Tinpot Well-Known Member

    can't the buyer make the same argument? Isn't this just a bullion coin so value should be like $25, the seller only lost out on $15. (granted the coin probably would of went for $30 or a bit more since people overpay on ebay) but we are still looking at $20 or so mistake.
     
  7. bkozak33

    bkozak33 Collector

    I have blocked him as well. It was a obvious mistake. no need to make a big deal out of it
     
  8. silentnviolent

    silentnviolent accumulator--selling--make an offer I can't refuse

    Buyers should not have to even consider the reasoning behind the pricing of any item. The seller screwed HIMSELF and no buyer should be held accountable for HIS mistake. Everyone involved in the trading of numismatics pays for an education in one way or another. Just not this guy.
     
  9. usc96

    usc96 Junior Member

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mistake_(contract_law)

    A unilateral mistake is where only one party to a contract is mistaken as to the terms or subject-matter contained in a contract. This kind of mistake is more common than other types of mistake. One must first distinguish between mechanical calculations and business error when looking at unilateral mistake. For mechanical calculations, a party may be able to set aside the contract on these grounds provided that the other party does not try to take advantage of the mistake, or 'snatch up' the offer (involving a bargain that one did not intend to make, betrayed by an error in arithmetic etc.). This will be seen by an objective standard, or if a reasonable person would be able to know that the mistake would not make sense to one of the parties. Unless one of the parties 'snatched up' the one-sided offer, courts will otherwise uphold the contract.
     
  10. bkozak33

    bkozak33 Collector

    fyp
     
  11. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    [FONT=Arial,Helvetica]Treat others only as you consent to being treated in the same situation. Bad form to file a neg for the reasons given[/FONT]. Besides that, I really don't think ebay will help you out as the buyer in this situation not on an innocent mistake.
     
  12. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    I would never feel right about taking advantage of someones mistake.
    To me it's just not honest. I'm going to block him as well.
     
  13. silentnviolent

    silentnviolent accumulator--selling--make an offer I can't refuse

    So that says that because the 'one-sided offer' was 'snatched up', legally the sale should be honored. Interesting.

    I'm not even interested in the legal perspective, though it appears to be on the side of the buyer. SO MANY members instruct the inadvertant buyers on this forum that the deal must go on. Newton's Third Law. Sellers need to be careful. See this thread: http://www.cointalk.com/t33334/ The auction is no longer viewable, but I sold some very rare foreign paper $ awhile back. They went for a fraction of the value, and on top of that I shipped international. I hadn't considered International shipping when I created the auction, and I priced shipping at $3. Too bad for me. It was a LESSON to me, and I LEARNED it, because I had to PAY FOR IT.
     
  14. silentnviolent

    silentnviolent accumulator--selling--make an offer I can't refuse

    I wouldn't expect an intelligent or intelligible response from the likes of you. Glad you can prove it.
     
  15. bkozak33

    bkozak33 Collector

    Geez, why you so angry?
     
  16. Peter T Davis

    Peter T Davis Hammer at the Ready Moderator

    For some reason he thinks that "fyp" is a swear word.

    I do wish you would stop misquoting people, though.
     
  17. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    So your items went higher than anticipated, but not what you think they could have sold for, yet you consider this your big lesson? Two totally different things and a poor way to try and prove a point. Also, how can you sell foreign notes and offer to sell internationally, then be upset because you had to ship.... to a foreign country?
    Involved in the trading of "numismatics"? Curious wording. So instead of being a gentleman and educating someone without lining your pockets, you think its okay to try and take advantage of, then punish someone as their "education"? Interesting coming from someone who....
     
  18. Detecto92

    Detecto92 Well-Known Member

    Peter, I think this thread needs to be closed. The damage is done.

    It was a good thread though. Showed a few people's true colors.

    IMO, demanding someone to honor a mistake, is very greedy and selfish. Unfortunately, greed is why the times are so bad.
     
  19. usc96

    usc96 Junior Member

    Read much?

    "Unless one of the parties 'snatched up' the one-sided offer, courts will otherwise uphold the contract."

    In other words, the sale will be legally upheld, UNLESS one of the parties 'snatched up' the one-sided offer.

    The OP 'snatched up' the one-sided offer. Therefore, the sale will NOT be upheld.
     
  20. Detecto92

    Detecto92 Well-Known Member

    Going back to what I said earlier. I remember hearing on the news that someone sued a car dealership because they mistakenly advertised a $15,000 car for $1500, or something like that.

    It all amounts to greed. You cannot expect someone to honor a sale when a mistake was made. Sure, you might be mad, but it's only right to be mad at yourself, you cannot expect to get something for half it's actual price.

    You can hope, but you cannot expect. If something sounds too good to be true, it usually is.
     
  21. Merc Crazy

    Merc Crazy Bumbling numismatic fool

    Haha, I must concur that it is absolutely comical that I screwed up the neg feedback. This is only one of my three ebay accounts, so if you opt to block me, fair enough... If I find something interesting, I'll just use an alternate account.
     
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