Thinking Wells Fargo GOLD...

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  1. GoldFinger1969

    GoldFinger1969 Well-Known Member

    I checked my 1908 No-Motto Wells Fargo Hoard notes. Only 1 coin graded less than MS-65, a sole MS-63.

    But it's unclear if the entire 19,900 were graded OR if about 10,000 were clearly circulated and not graded and about 9,000 graded.

    It's confusing. Wells Fargo certifications are not on the PCGS or NGC websites.
     
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  3. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    Love it !! where can I get that ;) lust ideal
     
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  4. rte

    rte Well-Known Member

    Nice, I just pulled the picture off the internet search, you could search for the owner...throw money at them till they sell??

    Those colors go together well :D green and gold almost has a magical pull to suck you down the rabbit hole.
    I'd say that's probably a top trophy holder, a high bar to grasp for.
    Anyone else think there might be a slight premium for those? :p
     
  5. GoldFinger1969

    GoldFinger1969 Well-Known Member

    For the OGH holders ? Absolutely !!

    They are the ORIGINAL holders for the Wells Fargo Hoard coins....even if undergraded you'd rather have them in the PCGS (with a CAC) than in another PCGS or NGC holder with a higher grade.

    The OGH itself generally represents conservative grading standards over the TPG grading era.

    ANY coin is worth more in the OGH. For a coin with a pedigree, you want it in the original holder (esp. an OGH) even more.
     
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  6. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    Great "Show-n-Tell" @mpcusausa Thanks for sharing those beauties.
     
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  7. GoldFinger1969

    GoldFinger1969 Well-Known Member

    Remember this.....NO SAINT-GAUDENS Double Eagles are as plentiful in MS67-69 grades. So if you want a Saint in those grades, this is the cheapest coin in those grades.

    Most MS-67's will cost about $12,000 and up. The 1908 NM/WF coins run about $5,000 cheaper.
     
  8. GoldFinger1969

    GoldFinger1969 Well-Known Member

    Any folks active in the 1990's who can shed light: were the entire 19,900 Wells Fargo Saints graded/certified....or were about 10,000 or so held out because they were not worthy of being sent in ?

    The totals I see for the grades add up to just over 9,000 coins. Can't account for about 10,000 of the hoard.

    Doesn't make sense that half the stash were pristine and the other half AU or low-60's grades not worthy of being sent in for grading.
     
  9. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    That would be ideal for what I am looking
    for, I am sure the CAC certification would
    bring a nice premium but if your going
    to spend the dollars, go all the way :)
     
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  10. GoldFinger1969

    GoldFinger1969 Well-Known Member

    An MS-66 CAC 1908 No Motto Saint OGH will run about $4,500 to $5,000.
     
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  11. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    Now all I need is to find one :)
     
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  12. GoldFinger1969

    GoldFinger1969 Well-Known Member

    They're not super-rare...they ARE out there.

    Maybe strecth for an MS-67 ? :D
     
  13. Joel Turner

    Joel Turner Active Member Supporter

    mpcusa, are you only looking for the WF Hoard marked slabs?
     
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  14. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    To0 bloody 'rich' for me........
     
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  15. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    yes just like the 66 on the previous page with out that nasty mark on the reverse.
     
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  16. GoldFinger1969

    GoldFinger1969 Well-Known Member

    I just realized that a similar coin that I found over at HA also has the same W-F serial code.

    I never noticed !! :wideyed:
     
  17. rte

    rte Well-Known Member

    Would make sense that a Wells Fargo hoard attributed coin would have the extra W-F attached in the serial designation.
    That's why I thought it odd that the one pictured before didn't have it.
    The number still checks out and says Wells Fargo on the PCGS site.
     
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  18. GoldFinger1969

    GoldFinger1969 Well-Known Member

    I don't know if ALL coins with the OGH graded by PCGS have that designation.

    Maybe GDJMSP or Insider or another vet can chime in....
     
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