Useless CAC sticker

Toning issues aside, it's my opinion that there are simply too many hits on the obverse to merit a 66, much less a bean.
And that's all coin graders give you: an opinion.
I was struck by the luster on first glance but a closer examination revealed the flaws (bag marks, butt ugly black toning).
I personally would seek another example if I had to have that particular date/mm but that's just....... my opinion!

 

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A) The coin is too bright
B) Often i can jusdge luster from the photograph, but this one is too small
C) I need a better blow up.

 

A Reasonable Request?

I believe that a reasonable request was submitted in asking for objectivity and civility. For the norm, a derogatory response STATEMENT: "Your are just a sorry little man screaming for attention" is unexpected, as my posts are a relatively minimal .43 posts/day, generally presented in a supportive objective format. It can be authenticated that my average visits to this site/day are numerous.

Simple objective truths/opinions? were presented countering believed subjective statements. They were presented in brevity, and subsequent elaboration when seemingly challenged, received without understanding.

As an experienced educator I realize my limitations in teaching some who are guided by perceived subjectivity. You are probably correct that I couldn't teach you anything, regardless of my best objective presentation. I do however deny the argument of your absolutely elevated knowledge, and the seemingly ludicrous statement: "that nobody here has ever collected premium gem SLQ's".

An objective interrogatory/deposition, respectively provided by differing parties, with subsequent briefs evaluated by an adjudicating body is probably more apropos to address your demands/statements.

Civility generally precludes necessitating the aforementioned process, but selective objective presentation is often a necessary precursor to potential action. I trust you now understand my "format". :thumb:

 

I meant to get to this but i couldn't find it on the hard drive

 

I saw absolutely nothing in that post about premium gem SLQ's. Just more worthless drivel. Over the years I have endured your boorish BOLD posts. This is the last one that I will read. As a parting shot I would like to let you know that I think your contribution to this forum falls somewhere between an Ambien and a Troll. Into the penalty box you go. Have fun playing with BUncirculated!

 

This one is classified as

"Unmoderated Death Match Zone"

 

It's gettin' freakin' hot in here..........

 

True to form, Lehigh turns it personal as he is incapable of engaging in an honest debate, and MUST be right and everyone else wrong because they disagree with his nonsense.

 

I don't believe that grading is an opinion. Grading is done along a series of standards that are established (granted, each TPG has their own unique standards). Now, there is some subjectivity that goes with grading...that is true. But, it is backed by set standards.

As for the marks. Sure, this coin is not flawless. But those marks you speak of only became greatly obvious when the photo is blown way up. Grading is not done with high resolution photos blown up. It is done in hand with a loupe. I believe those flaws would be much less apparent in hand.

As for the toning, as I have already said I personally don't care for it either. I don't think it does anything to the grade, but personal opinion towards it is unfavorable and I would probably find a different example.

 

P.S. Gentlemen, please keep it civil. This is an interesting debate and I don't want to see it become a problem. Consider this a warning...for everyone

 

Couldnt you just peel off the green bean and stick it on a new slab????

 

They are apparently made much like the hologram stickers on the back of the TPGs slabs. If you remove it, it can't be reused.

 

I wouldn't. I'm a former NGCer and a current PCGSer, have been for some time. With my dealings I prefer PCGS...jmo.

 

Can't accurately grade 'em either......

 

Who's to say what's accurate?

 

Not sure how hard they are to take off since I have never tried it, but you can search the certification number at CAC's website to see if it jives.

 

I disagree. The grades assigned are merely opinion based on an apparently changing series of standards. Proof of this is the undeniable fact that coins sent in for re-grading will often come back as a different grade.

 

That is simply because the market has dictated that. For example, if you purchased a raw Morgan Dollar as MS63 in 1990...by today's standards it would probably be MS65 even though it is still raw. The TPGs haven't changed the grading standards, the market has changed it's standards and the TPGs have simply adapted.

 

What?!? Size2 is the new size 6..

 

Ruben, you know exactly what I mean. Grading standards have changed over the last 25 years, it's as simple as that. What was MS63 in 1990 is not MS63 today.