1921 Peace Silver Dollar - Grade oppinion

Discussion in 'What's it Worth' started by Siggi Palma, May 13, 2012.

  1. Siggi Palma

    Siggi Palma Well-Known Member

    Hey gang,

    Would you agree this is a AU55 ?

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    Siggi
     
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  3. kaosleeroy108

    kaosleeroy108 The Mahayana Tea Shop & hobby center

  4. Kirkuleez

    Kirkuleez 80 proof

    AU-55 looks correct. It looks like a very weak strike and it has a few heavy scratches on it.
     
  5. Siggi Palma

    Siggi Palma Well-Known Member

    It´s my first attempt at grading the US scale ;)
     
  6. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

    I would say XF due to the gouge on Liberty's forehead, the marks on her neck, and the gouge on the eagle's wing reverse side, and the small amount of luster that appears to be present as well.

    It wouldn't surprise me if this was body bagged as damaged, or details with no grade from a TPG.
     
  7. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    No I would not. I would agree the coin has low AU details, but it has several problems. Altered surfaces, possible graffiti, and plain old damage.
     
  8. Siggi Palma

    Siggi Palma Well-Known Member

    Thank you sir, Appriciate your feedback :)

    I know it has many problems but i´m giving the US scale some time of the day so i´m not that far of for a first timer :)
     
  9. rodeoclown

    rodeoclown Dodging Bulls

    Yeah, that gouge above the eye really hurts this coin overall amongst it's other problems pointed out.
     
  10. kaosleeroy108

    kaosleeroy108 The Mahayana Tea Shop & hobby center

    id say from my experince it is a Xf45 -au 50 its a nice coin but on the obverse the hAir lines are warn , and on the rev the cent er of the chest ar worn but stil i may be off..
     
  11. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

    I think you're confusing the reverse of the Peace with that of a Morgan. The eagle on the reverse of a Peace is a profile, angled view showing only the right wing of the eagle and not it's chest like on the Morgan.
     
  12. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    I don't think this is a problem coin and AU55 sounds about right to me. That mark is severe, but not something that should prevent it from being graded.
     
  13. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    I would call it AU details...but it does have damage that I believe would prevent it from being graded. Also, 1921 Peace Dollars can be hard for the novice to grade because they have a notoriously poor strike.
     
  14. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    You might want to look a little closer - altered surfaces & graffiti.

    21 Peace details.jpg
     
  15. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    I see a few stains that should not prohibit the grading of the coin, nothing more.
     
  16. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    You can't see where it looks like somebody tried to rub out that dark stain ?

    And you can't see that shield shaped design (that I have now circled) with what looks like an M carved in middle of it ?

    21 Peace details a.JPG
     
  17. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    You are dreaming, that is nothing. Certainly not graffiti. But hey, I am willing to put my money where my mouth is. Have the OP submit it and if it comes back in a details holder, I pay the grading fee. If it comes back graded, you pay the fee. How bout it?
     
  18. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Paul, as I have told you before - I am disabled, have been for several years now. I subsist of what SS pays me every month. So as much as I would like to take you up on that, I can't.

    But if you say you can't see it, go see an eye doctor.
     
  19. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    Oh I see it, I just don't think someone tried to carve their family crest in the field of that coin.

    Hey Doug, check this one out, someone carved a big M in the left field

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    Oh wait, those are just normal surface marks.
     
  20. jcakcoin

    jcakcoin New Member

    AU55 sounds right, it doesn't look damaged
     
  21. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

    +1

    And I don't give a big fat hairy rip if Lehigh says I'm brown nosing either, but that's noticeable WITHOUT enlarging the photos.
     
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