1817 Large Cent: Grade and Attribution Help Please

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Eduard, May 14, 2012.

  1. Eduard

    Eduard Supporter**

    Hi All,
    I would greatly appreciate your attribution and grade help for this 1817 Large Cent.

    Thanks,

    Eduard
     

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  3. Detecto92

    Detecto92 Well-Known Member

    Grade: VF-35.
     
  4. coleguy

    coleguy Coin Collector

    I'd say AU. Can't help with the attribution as I'm not where my books are at the moment.
    Guy
     
  5. Detecto92

    Detecto92 Well-Known Member

    Missing too much hair detail for AU.
    This is AU.
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  6. beef1020

    beef1020 Junior Member

    It's an N13, the lazy C for the C in cent :) There are many mint state examples of this variety, and they tend to come sharply struck. I don't have much experience in middle date grading but I would say sharpness is around 40-50.
     
  7. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Beef is correct, N-13 and I would say XF-45 sharpness probably EAC net XF-40.
     
  8. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    Detecto, I think you're confusing light strike for wear.

    IMO: TPG grade AU 58 or 55. EAC grade XF 45, net 40.
     
  9. Eduard

    Eduard Supporter**

    I thank you all, for your comments, and help with the attribution. So N-13 it is.

    After posting, I found in the Goldberg archives an Auction Sale catalogue which focused solely on the middle dates. A very valuable resource I was not aware of for attribution of the middle dates.

    Thanks again,

    Eduard
     
  10. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    That would probably be the Dan Holmes II sale.
     
  11. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn Well-Known Member

    That is this?

     
  12. AnkurJ

    AnkurJ New Member

    XF45 details with an old cleaning. No idea on the attribution.
     
  13. areich

    areich America*s Darling

    Hello

    You graduated from Junior member to Senior.

    Mandy
     
  14. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    I believe he means this, The Dan Holes II sale lots 1 through 564 (There is also a Dan Holes I sale for the early dates. Between the two of them they picture every single Large Cent varity from 1793 through 1839 except the recently discovered 1825 N-5. Obv of N-4 rev of N-10)
    http://images.goldbergauctions.com/php/toc_auc.php?site=1&lang=1&sale=59
     
  15. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn Well-Known Member

    Wonderful. How does someone learn about these things?

    Ruben
     
  16. Eduard

    Eduard Supporter**

    Yes, that is the one. I have spent a few hours over the last few days looking at the photos of coins in that superb collection.
     
  17. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    I also look at the earlier Auction 1 for Early dates. Holmes assembled a truly remarkable collection.
     
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