What the? Out snipped at 0.5 seconds.

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Detecto92, Apr 19, 2012.

  1. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    Why if the sniper didn't put in more than your max you would win , If you want an extra five seconds everytime someone outbids you , you're really bidding more than you want or you should have put in a higher bid .
     
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  3. Detecto92

    Detecto92 Well-Known Member

    Jeesh! I came back to check on my thread, and it's like WWIII in here! Why can't people agree to disagree?




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  4. mikem2000

    mikem2000 Lost Cause

    Detecto,

    I know you didn't mean anything by it, but pic 1 is very un-cool.

    Mike
     
  5. dsmith23

    dsmith23 Gotta get 'em all

    I agree, my brother in law is special, not funny at all.
     
  6. Detecto92

    Detecto92 Well-Known Member

    I deleted the picture. My apologies if anyone has been offended.
     
  7. Kirkuleez

    Kirkuleez 80 proof

    It drives me nuts because I like an auction setting and I know that some sellers have people put in shill bids to drive up the price so I don't just throw out a number and hope for the best. I don't bid on inexpensive coins and sometimes I am bidding on a coin that I have not seen in a few years. You can't just go by book value on those kind of coins.
     
  8. mikem2000

    mikem2000 Lost Cause

    No issues,

    Sometimes we just need a little nudge :)
     
  9. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Sorry for the delay, got caught up doing other things and couldn't get to this until now. And by the way Paul, I asked you to pick 10 coins, not just 1. But so be it. Here's 5 that sold for less than your pick, and I found them in the first 2 places I looked.

    https://www.greatcollections.com/Coin/19089/1943-S-Jefferson-Nickel-NGC-MS-67

    http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=131210&lotNo=27481

    http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=131208&lotNo=22071

    http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=131208&lotNo=22911

    http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=131137&lotNo=26066


     
  10. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    And here's 2 that sold for less.

    http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=1169&lotNo=3109

    http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=1167&lotNo=3100

     
  11. Hunt1

    Hunt1 Active Member

    Are BP's counted into the HA's doug? I know it's not "the coin price", but in the end, it still comes out of the buyers pocket right? :)
     
  12. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    To further my point, since nobody else is picking examples, here's a few I picked at random. Not the cheapest, but not the most expensive either. These ebay examples merely happened to be on the first page of the search.

    1883-CC Morgan MS64
    ebay -

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/1883-CC-Morgan-Dollar-PCGS-GREEN-LABEL-MS-64-/300696711777?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item4602ebb261#ht_700wt_1162

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/1883-CC-MORGAN-SILVER-DOLLAR-MS-64-PCGS-7098-Nice-Certified-Coin-/280867092395?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item4164fbb7ab#ht_3310wt_928

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/1883-CC-MORGAN-DOLLAR-PCGS-MS-64-CAC-/170810816122?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item27c51e367a#ht_797wt_1162


    C
    heaper examples of the same coin from Heritage -

    http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=131213&lotNo=33751

    http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=1169&lotNo=10616

    http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=131213&lotNo=32594

    http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=131210&lotNo=27892


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    943-S MS65 Walkers
    ebay

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/1943-S-Liberty-Walking-Half-Dollar-NGC-Graded-MS65-/220998686581?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item33748c5775#ht_500wt_948

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/1943-S-LIBERTY-WALKING-HALF-DOLLAR-50C-MS-65-PCGS-/330710780982?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item4cffe60c36#ht_1295wt_928


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    heaper examples of the same coin from Heritage -

    http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=131212&lotNo=20343

    http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=131209&lotNo=24262

    http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=1167&lotNo=8522


    T
    he point folks is you can do this with just about any coin. Ebay is seldom the cheapest place to buy coins anymore. Yes, you can still find good deals there from time to time. But as a general rule, you can find better deals elsewhere.
     
  13. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Yes of course BP is added in. All you have to do is click on the link to see that.
     
  14. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    As a general rule, I would agree with that for most coins. I still like Ebay due to it allowing me to find coins even 99% of ancient dealers do not have. It is quite shocking how high Ebay has become over the last 10 years though. I imagine its a function of higher and higher fees.
     
  15. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    Doug,

    Heritage charges over $8 for S&H so the resultant prices are much higher than those auction listings indicate. Don't worry I fixed your links above to show the actual prices. Now you may consider Heritage & Great Collections "dealers" but I don't; they are auction houses, but that is okay. You have successfully found a few that are marginally cheaper than the one I posted on E-Bay for $64. However, since that post, I posted a current example with a BIN of $50 with free shipping. It makes no difference that it is my listing despite what that other guy says. Furthermore, that other guy set the bar at $33.50, or did you miss that?

    The end result is Doug that we could play this little game for a long time. The truth is that making a blanket statement that E-Bay will cost more money than other sources is foolish & incorrect. At any given point in time, it is possible to find the best deal on a given coin from any number of sources, including E-Bay.

    The more important point is that finding a coin for the cheapest price is a terrible way to collect coins. Typically when you buy the cheapest example of a graded coin, you are getting an overgraded piece of dreck that is lacking in eye appeal. And you are the one who always points out that "not all MS65's are equal" so it stands to reason that you should agree with this principle. Personally, I follow the mantra that great coins are not cheap, and cheap coins are not great. Look at my collection of Jefferson Nickels and know that I paid a premium to the price guide for just about every coin.

    Paul
     
  16. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

    The name is BUncirculated, and it wasn't up to me to set the bar for him, it was up to you, and you failed, again.
     
  17. Hunt1

    Hunt1 Active Member

  18. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    Frankly, nobody cares what your name is, or should we say your little internet handle. And for the record, I knew all about the completed listings that you posted. What's the matter, still licking your wounds from yesterday?
     
  19. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

    I'm not the one wounded. or did you forget you were outsmarted?

    Oh and BTW, your little MS67, fall under the gem uncirculated category, ;)
     
  20. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    At this point, I am convinced that you know nothing about coins. An MS67 coin is considered a premium gem. Perhaps you should heed the advice of the gentleman who told you that your making yourself look foolish.
     
  21. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    That's about enough of that guys... Take it to PM... Back on topic please.
     
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