There are many good coins in ANACS and ICG slabs which will now be unmarketable and unsearchable on eBay with these new rules. I spent several thousand dollars with ANACS recently on varieties and ancients which are two categories that people will (righly so) never buy unless attributed and certified by a reputable grading service. Now eBay will consider these raw, and neither the name of the service nor the grade can be listed in the title or description. And you can't search from a photo.
fight this stupid new policy! I just called 2 departments and wrote ebay a letter to their comments and questions department. If anyone wants the email for that department in ebay PM and i can give you ebays direct corp headquarters number too.
If I read this correctly (big if) and if they don't revise it later. you can still say the coins are certified by ANACS or IGC. I see no mention that the use of their names is prohibited either in the title or description. However, why they would now threat these 2 as in-betweens escapes me.
Frankly I hate ebay's litany of stupid rules. I wouldn't sell there. I personally prefer ANACS over NGC or PCGS. I think ANACS grades most coins more accurately than the other two.
No - the fact that they excluded ANACs is bad, very bad. But the restriction of slabbers was extremely important because of the VAST amount of fraud that was happening. They need to get a small grouop of experts to accredit graders. Ruben
In all of the years I have never searched for varieties or errors using any TPG name in the search. If I want a "1888/7 Indian Cent" that is how I will search, or with the Snow #. So I don't think much will change that. Also attribution accuracy was not in the Ebay change, only numeric grades, so ANACS ability as people perceive it should not be threatened. They do have some top attribution people, but that doesn't always translate to top grading. Jim
Could PCGS & NGC be in cahoots with ebay and trying to find a way to shut down or steal more from their competitors?
Ebay as a public company has a market cap of 46 billion, PCGS ( under Collectors universe) as a public company has a market cap of 125 Million, so no I do not think Ebay would be in "cahoots", as they could just buy them. NGC I think is a privately held concern ( Collectors society), but I believe it is smaller than PCGS
I doubt it. The top two dominate the TPG market enough so that it wouldn't be a big deal, although there could be a temporary increase in submissions due to cracking out ANACS holders which shouldn't really have any effect.
that is what Microsoft told the Record and Movie Industry in the DRM Copyright hearings. It was kind of funny and made the Record Industry reps faces turn ashen white. Ruben
I suppose that NGC, as a company, should publicly pronounce itself in direct relation to this peculiar inconsistency by eBay. (In the meantime, NGC won't be receiving more money from my part.)
Uh, no. You cannot list a numerical grade anywhere in your listing or description unless it was bestowed by NGC or PCGS.
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I see this as nothing more than the continuing effort by eBay to help protect people from themselves and unscrupulous sellers. Disagree if you want, but I see it as good thing. As LostDutchman said - It has been common knowledge in the community that these companies "ain't what they used to be". That has been true ever since the 2 companies got new owners and swapped staffs. For those of you who forgot, or never knew, everybody who used to work for ICG, now works for ANACS. And everybody who used to work for ANACS, now works for ICG. So it just kills me, when I see comments like - I have always liked ANACS, but don't like ICG - or vice versa. Neither ICG nor ANACS is the same company they used to be. Neither one of the companies uses the same grading standards that they built their reputations and company names on. Both companies greatly loosened their grading standards when the new owners took over. Yes, there was a time when ANACS and ICG both commanded a certain level of respect. Yes, there was a time when you could buy a coin in an ANACS slab or an ICG slab and have a certain level of confidence. But all of that went away when the new owners took over the companies and established their new, loose, grading standards. Think of it like this - if PCGS was bought by the person who owns SGS - would you still trust coins in a new PCGS slab ? In effect that's kind of what happened with ANACS and ICG. And there are a lot, a whole lot, of people who don't understand or realize that that is what happened to a large degree. There are still a lot of people who have the same faith and trust in ANACS that they had in the company 10 years ago - because the company still has the same name. But it IS NOT the same company anymore ! Neither one of them are. What eBay just did - should have been done long ago. And IMO, if you don't realize that, or if you don't believe that - then you need to wake up and smell the coffee.
Not only smell, but drink that wonderful delicious coffee goodness! Mmmmm.. C o f f e e e e e ! I don't even seek out slabs, I buy raw coins and I still think this benefits me as well. No more of those ridiculous sellers throwing 10 million dollar buy it now or make me offer coins.
Well, I just sent a Morgan Dollar into ANACS that had been in an OGH and graded MS-64. It came back from ANACS a 63. I have other examples I could cite. I send lots of coins into all 3 TPGs and the notion that ANACS gives out cookie grades is laughable. What this really seems about is that PCGS and NGC are tired of ANACS undercutting them on price. ANACS is the only major TPG that offers discounts. This must drive the other two up the wall. If I use an ANACS coupon I can get 10 goins graded for around 100 bucks plus shipping. I have to spend that much to get 4 coins graded by PCGS.