Talk about luck

I remember when cointalk was about coins............and maybe a little about the original posters experience and excitment.

 

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I just think that there are better ways than to get law enforcement involved,maby run an ad in the local paper for a couple of weeks simply stating that some coins have been found. Let them tell you what exactly it is. Sorry,I just have very little faith in law enforcement,or any government agency for that matter. Why should some dishonest person there end up with his find? Maby I'm just bitter because I have been screwed...

 

Baseless Assumption??

I suggest you do your "homework" before publicly declaring "baseless assumptions". I believe it's possible to uncover country-wide instances as I've previously supplied a link, and as follows where other numerous locals have reported instances, and been threatened with retaliation upon reporting malfeasance: http://www.fox21online.com/news/pine-county-sheriff’s-still-searching-12-missing-firearms

Yes, you are correct that prior to "discovery" there was more to this which couldn't be discussed, such as being threatened with extermination by an officer having a handgun pointed at you, alone inside of your property, while "confiscating" personal property. The recent discovery has just shown the "tip of the iceberg".

Greed seemingly breeds unbounded violence!!

I believe you'll find numerous nationally documented similar instances. I just cited some local occurrences. Let's get realistic before accusations!!

 

[video=youtube;XMfasIbOn1g]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMfasIbOn1g[/video]

 

Who's property was it? How do you know somebody didn't just bury them there last year and is planning on coming back for them some time? If it's his own property I guess there's nothing you can do. Whoever buried it should have buried it deeper. I'd at least check around with anybody who possibly could have put it there. Relatives, etc... Sounds like a great find but sounds like somebody else could be really unhappy some day!

 

Huh

 

We don't know who these belong to. We did talk to my brother's neighbor, a NYS Trooper, and he called the troop station and there are not reports of stolen, or lost rolls of quarters within the past 6 months, so the police have been notified, and as I stated, that was the first thing my brother did before he called me.

In so far as him running an ad, he's done that as well, as of this morning(by my suggestion).

Regardless, he's is in no itching hurry to sell these. After 30 days, if no one claims them, they'll be his.

 

Running an add in the paper? That should attract some screw balls......well it would in my neck o' the woods.

 

It just might in his neck of the woods too. lol

 

Someone following this thread could call and provide some close details of the find. PM me your brothers number. :devil: TC

 

Personally, I think you and your brother did the right thing. What never ceases to amaze me is the number of people, here (!), who can think up all kinds of excuses why they should do the wrong thing, but let them get cheated by a SleazeBay seller and they'll scream bloody murder.

Chris

 

I see this mentality all the time.

The OP has a really unique situation that would be treated in many different ways depending on who found them. You really cant judge them for doing what they did. What would anyone here do?

Do you leave them there for the person to come back for them?
Is the original owner still alive?
Do you leave them there for someone else to find?
Leave them to be lost to everybody for 100 years?
Turn them in so somebody else gets them for free?

Theres no good answer. If the previous owner is still around, I blame them. If they didnt want it found they should have used a better hiding spot and buried it deeper. Because now you have this situation which is not the finder's fault.

 

Private Property?

I don't believe it was clearly established whether or not the items were retrieved from private or public property, only that the items were found "in the woods". Most "woods" have owners.

We have community policing in our local, with crime watch signs, cameras, patrols, and individuals who will warn others crossing private property going to "their fishing hole" that unless they have permission to cross private property, they are trespassing. We all have gates on our properties, and the majority have canine/armed security. We inform trespassers that unless they are entering a body of water by public access, the contiguous property owners are paying a significant premium for their egress/view. Our policies were developed after intrusive individuals felt they had public domain rights to cross private land, taking whatever they "found"/viewed desirable. "Inconsiderates" disregarded posted signs, would party, burning whatever they felt like consuming during "no burn" periods, leave their trash behind, illegally hunt/fish, and even pointed rifles at owners who reminded them of signed postings.

We've had to form an armed posse, and "hunt down" individuals/groups who felt no compunction about removing whatever they found, often an unattended boat or other private possession. We've met resistance, as "groups" believe whatever they "find" belongs to them.

"What never ceases to amaze me" is why it's felt that the removal was proper, not suggested returning the property to the legal owner, if found on private property. No one, unless by court decree, has the right to remove items from private property, and "lay claim". I believe this is common letter of law in most jurisdictions (of which I'm familiar). If the items were found on public property, then the suggested approaches are germane. I hope that the rightful owner is searched/located, as I'm certain they would be pleased with the honest effort. :thumb:

 

BU said it was in some woods behind a school.

Does not sound like private property to me.

 

It's not private property. The school's line ends at the fence line. The area where he and his friend were is public land for public use.

 

The reason I suspect that the coins (8 rolls, not 4 as someone commented) may have been stolen is because the bag was partially exposed and one quarter was laying on the ground above it. This suggests that someone tried to hide them in a hurry and maybe left the one coin out to make it easier to locate, not thinking that someone else might find them. If the true owner had decided to hide them, it stands to reason that he/she would have taken greater care to prevent someone from finding the stash.

Chris

 

Yes but dogs, racoons, and lots of other furry creatures love to dig in the dirt and it could just as easily been uncovered by one of them. Those coins could have been there for 40 years wrapped in plastic. Then a storm washed away the dirt, or a dog unearthed it.

Going to the ends of the earth to try and find a owner of a few rolls of silver who may or may not even exist does not sound like the honorable thing to do, it sounds like a waste of time.

 

Yes, and a tornado could have touched down on that exact spot and then disappeared. What a bunch of garbage! That sounds like the excuses a child makes up when they didn't turn in their homework. Like I said before, don't complain here if someone cheats you on SleazeBay.

Chris

 

It is the honorable thing to do regardless of when these were buried.

They don't belong to my brother, and there is an obligation in NYS on the finder of property to make a valid effort to find the rightful owner.

You may be right, the person(s) who buried these may be long dead by now, but an effort is being to made to try and find the owner. Once 30 days has expired, ownership can be claimed by the finder.

This shows good character, something others could stand to learn from.

 

Man, you guys don't kid around. You folks allowed to take the law into your own hands in your state? How does the local constabulary view your actions? Forgive me, as I'm not being snide or judgmental, but if my neighbors and I did such a thing (in my area) the cops would be locking us up instead of the crooks.