Washing your hands do no good. I worked for 3 months as a Cashier at target. Besides washing my hands after using the John (which is mandatory), I never sanitized or washed my hands. Not after someone handed me a $20 that they sneezed on, not after I picked up a dirty tissue off the ground. I never sanitize anything, I never wash my hands. When I was a kid, my parents did not sanitize that much either. Except maybe my binkee or my bottle from time to time. Guess what? I hardly got sick. I actually got sick LESS than most people. So when I see parents sanitizing every square inch of their child's play area, making them wash their hands like a cult, I just laugh. They just get as sick as everyone else. I think that children who parent's sanitize too much get sick MORE OFTEN. Because they were not exposed to it [germs] at a younger age. So really I think the whole ritual of people constantly using germ-x, the cart wipes at stores, washing their hands 50 times a day, is a huge farce. These people get sick just as often as anyone else. No more, no less. So put that in your pipe and smoke it, germaphobe.
That's nasty, Detecto. Call me a "germaphobe" too, but people like you are the very reason why I regularly use hand sanitizer. Hygiene is your friend.
That is typical things people that work at places like Target do which is just plain inconsiderate to customers. I know I was checking out at Walmart and the teller sneezed into his hands, wiped them on his pants, pulled out a handkerchief (like he couldn't sneeze into that) and "say may I help you"? Of course we are talking about coins, not dirty habits. I myself NEVER get sick not even common colds every once and a while. When their are outbreaks of the flu, coming into contact with some cashiers at mass retailers sounds like a nice place to catch it. Of course we are really talking about the obvious dirtiness of coin roll finds, not something you pick up at a coin shop. Do you really think Target customers like to hear you pick up dirty tissues and handle money that has been sneezed on before you handle food they are buying? Truth is if you are not a doctor or medical researcher I would dismiss any talk about germ carriers.
Yes, I experience this type of lack of hygiene shopping in Walmart, besides the experience from this one cashier at Walmart below, I had another experience. Apparently the cashier had a cold of some sort of cold and after ringing up my items shoved his forefinger and thumb up his nose and sucked the mucus back up. Stories of people with bad hygiene do make me want put my coins in alcohol. I am confused about using acetone on coins though. Is that somehow better than dipping them in alcohol and rinsing them distilled water. Of course I have just put them in distilled water just to get rid of some dirt which is by no means harsh.
Maybe stretching the thread boundaries a little, but the journals have had several peer reviewed medical papers that seem to indicate we may be overdoing it in use of sanitizers and antibiotics vs. increase in allergies and allergic based diseases. If you get to a magazine rack or library, look at the last page of the May 2012 Discover magazine ( my favorite for most non-science people). It seems that over the years, our immune system which was highly evolved to protect us from foreign antigens have started to attack more often our internal proteins as "antigens". In 2004 lab Mice were injected with parasites, and their immune systems stopped attacking food proteins ( food allergies) as they were too busy with the parasites . And here is the ugly part A British citizen, James Lawrence went to Cameroon in 2007 and walked barefoot near some latrines to pickup hookworms through his feet. He did , and it cured his asthma and normal seasonal allergies. He tried to sell the hookworms world wide ( Not is US due to FDA) but it was hard to harvest and ship them ( a reported $3000 for 35 worms. Tick bites can induce an allergy to animal meat/products, so good luck as a vegetarian. It is very informative reading although you may be scratching your skin after reading.. Jim P.S. Don't read the top copy, remember someone may have handled it
If you think that's bad, you should see how many kids (middle school!) that don't wash their hands after they go to the crapper. Disgusting. BTW, isn't silver an antimicrobial? I'm pretty sure it is. I don't worry about getting sick from my coins. Roll searching, though, is completely different. When I get done searching a few rolls of nickels and cents my hands smell rather unpleasant, and I wash them shortly thereafter. One thing I find funny is that: Grandma: "Ethan, make sure not to get food on your coins" Mom: "Ethan, make sure not to get any coins on your food. They are just so dirty" The latter if funny because: 1. Most of my coins have not circulated for a long time, they are proofs, or they are gem BU. 2. I don't actually handle coins at the table. I keep them in holders.
My 3 year old use to eat play sand, mud and just about anything she found outside. She's still alive. A little dirt don't hurt! We just make them wash their hands before eating to wash off the grime, not worried about actual germs. :thumb:
Another thing I think that is not helping is parents are too quick to take their kids to the doctor when they get sick. The doctors usually prescribe antibiotics. Most people don't understand that if they get treated for every cold or when they get sick, they're body becomes lazy and forgets how to fight off the bacteria or viruses on it's own. I've had only one really horrible cold in the past 12 years, it lasted for several weeks, mostly congested cough. It was something the kids got from others at school probably my body hadn't seen in a very long time. The kids were getting sent off to their grandparents so they had to get some antibiotics so they were not sick the whole time, sure they cleared up in 2 days but their body doesn't know how to fight it. My wife urged me to go to the doctor, I refused. I wanted my body to fight it off naturally, so the next time the kids bring it home, it won't affect me. I eat after them all the time when they're sick and never get sick myself. I'm also vegetarian, well, I still eat fish and seafood. I can't give up fish, it's way too yummy. Never had the flu and I've never had a flu shot. Everyone I know who gets a flu shot gets the flu.
Interesting, Ill have to check it out. The use of hand sanitizer has more to do with what may remain on a person's hands than germ concern. Someone using a restroom, picking up a used tissue, or whatever and not washing their hands is just nasty IMHO.
You know I have been looking around the web about cleaning coins since I encountered this forum and in a nutshell everyone says if you are in doubt, don't clean them. If you must since circulated coins can be grimy and dirty you can prepare a bath with a little dish detengerant and rinse with distilled water or dip them in alchohol get the dirt off and then put them in distilled water. The alcohol worked for me to get the goop off. Of course I would never do any of this to a coin find I wanted to sell, let them worry about it. I am talking about mainly wheat pennies, buffalo nickels, and silver dimes not worth more than a couple bucks a piece.
You bring up an interesting point about germs. I have never been self conscious about my skin contact with coins. In the days of the Army we would put dip in between our toes to help stay up at night. Seeing as how you are self aware I doubt you'll have any problems with outbreaks (I've undoubtably touched my hand to my mouth post handling coins/currency, and don't recall any recent illness). As mentioned prior, cleaning is a very precarious measure. I've been collecting since November and only attempted to clean coins twice. The Silver came out alright, but the copper was a disaster.