1970 S small date BU roll. weak, liberty.

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the 7 is a major give away. the large date has the little upward thrust crease where the bottom and top portions meet on the underside of the 7. the small dates dont have this.

 

I usually check the 9 first. Does the inner loop of the 9 end in a sharp point, pointing directly east or does it end as a "squared" blunt pointing toward the bottom of the 9?

 

Yes.

 

it ends in a point aiming due east towards the 7

 

Sounds like you have small date(s), but I wouldn't authenticate them based on your photos. I'd need a close up pic of the date, as there is a variety of the large date that fools many.

Even photos can fool you, so many on this forum, including myself, have bought certified examples of small dates in order to compare and identify uncertified examples.

 

i posted them on lincoln cent resource and now people are emailing me with trade and purchase offers. i feel bad, because i dont want to ship any. i tried hard, but the pic i posted is the best one i could take. i cant get it to focus any better, even on macro.

 

im wondering if it would be worth it to get a few graded? i would hate to ship them out in the mail, but it would be nice to save a few slabbed for myself. not so much for value, but to protect a few forever.

 

I would probably have any of them that are 65 or better graded.

 

If all in the roll are the same (and MS coins) he is half way to a bulk submission. It may be worthwhile to find a trustworthy partner.

 

what is a bulk submission? and all but two look pretty much brand new. the two that dont have a partial fingerprint burned on. i made sure not to touch the faces and wiped them all off softly before i put them back in the roll. and i had a guy tell me that these 1970 S small dates only came in proof sets. is that true? did her uncle put these together from 50 different sets?

 

You "wiped" the coins off? All of them? How?

Proofs did, but these are not proofs.

http://www.pcgs.com/services/bulksubmissions.html

 

no. i picked a few at random to really inspect with my glass, then wiped the sides, not the faces, where i held them. i didnt clean anything of or wipe the faces. i used my wifes eyeglass cloth.

 

so he DID put this roll together. i just found the large date counterparts still in the uncirc set sleeves. now i have a good comparison, and another EASY way to tell is the bottom of the 7 is down past the zero on large dates, and even with the zero on small dates. its easier, at least for myself, to make out that than the difference in the top level with just a quick look. and there is a marked difference in the liberty stamp. the large date liberty isnt really strong, but its no where near as light as the small date. at least with the large dates i have.

 

here is a new pic of the two side by side. the large date is on the left, and the small on the right.

 

good , you learning :yes:

 

They made small date cents for circulation also.
I think that the two coins with fingerprints were probably the end coins of a bank wrapped paper roll, and that your uncle just re-rolled into a plastic tube because the paper was falling apart, he was checking for varieties, or because he wanted to prevent further damage.

 

This was a great deal for whom ever received your small date Lincoln and I'm not dissing the IKE's but that spot of toning adds zero value to a coin whose only real value comes into play in grades of MS67 or higher.

Its nothing more than a piece of "whatever" getting sealed into the US Mint cello and if anything at all, actually hinders the value of the IKE.

 

It is NOT "burned" into the coin.

It is more than likely a piece of organic material which caused the area directly aoround it to tone a dark blackish color. It is NOT uncommon and its definitly NOT desireable.

 

i guess you didnt read the next post. i didnt trade a penny for the ike. i didnt even pay for the ike. i grabbed one out of the 60 or so i had because 73 is my birth year and it just happened to be burnt. i didnt say it added anything to the ike. i just wanted to know what caused it. i still have all 50 of the small dates. im in no hurry to do anything other than trade them for other coins and i can wait for the right ones.