They told me its fake because its the wrong color

They told me my coin is fake because it is the wrong color




SO I TOOK A FEW MORE PHOTOS ...OF THE SAME COIN







WHAT COLOR DO YOU WANT IT TO BE ?

SILVER BRASS COPPER OR PEWTER :devil:

 

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Is there any way to color it "genuine"?

 

It may look more genuine if he coloured it with magic marker...

 

Doesn't matter what color you make it- the seam on the edge is a dead giveaway that its a copy.

 

I'll take silver, along with a composition of the same:devil:

 

There's a lot more reasons that coin is fake than the color. Maybe the guy was trying to be kind to you. Because when you have a fake coin, then just one reason is enough to not make it real, and it doesn't need to be numismatically psycho-analyzed to find all the reasons it is not genuine. The coin just doesn't scream real to people and that, in essence, is what real/fake is. If it doesn't have the hallmarks of real, then it is fake. There is no threshold that has to be reached, in that it has to have X out of things wrong with it to be deemed fake, with resulting degrees of fakeness. It only takes one thing not being kosher with it to be fake.

Hope you will be able to see that in time.

 

It's not fake because of the color. It's fake because not one single devise on that piece matches up with any of the varieties of that particular coin.
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Sorry buddy but it couldn't get anymore fake than it is. Time to "Mind your Business".

 

Its fake because it's the wrong color... Casting seam... Marked HONG KONG... Casting pits... Mushy details... It's plated copper... Among other things...

 

How did you get this coin? Did you buy it? Did you have it for a long time? You seem to really not want to believe it is fake.

 

It went down on the Titanic...

 

i UNDERSTAND MY COIN WAS CAST AND IT IS NOT AN ORIGINAL PEWTER COIN ....

WHAT i WANT TO KNOW IS WHEN AND WHY AND WHO MADE IT ......BECAUSE I KNOW IT WAS MADE BEFORE 1912 I THINK ABOUT 30 YEARS BEFORE

 

IT BELONGED TO mr murdock FROM THE titanic HE IS MY GREAT GREAT UNCLE

i ALSO HAVE A SPANISH 8 mAVARDIES AND A FEW OTHERS FROM THE SAME TIME

 

Isn't his last name spelled Murdoch?

 

Trolling again I see

 

Nobody knows when it was made... People don't study REPLICA coins. Most people don't collect REPLICA coins... There is a very small market for these replicas... It's worth $5 as a novelty... That is all... It was NOT made to circulate in China or anywhere else... It's a trinket. Please stop making post about this coin.

 

The other thing about real/fake is that coins are not the only thing this applies to in life. Human minds have a great capacity to be able to (what some people might erroneously believe is not acheiveable) intuitively know what is real and what is not, when presented with an item. This is because the mind puts recognizable visual markers in storage in the brain to use as comparisons. Most people can not identify to others what these are but they are stored in peoples minds. Someone who is very familiar with a real item, to the point that they have spent enough time with it (through 'use' and not by osmosis), have stored a lot of visual information about that real item in their brain. When presented with a fake or copy of something, they may or may not be able to verbalize what exactly is wrong with the item, but they "know" there is something wrong with it. So they can tell real and fake apart. I was able to do that with Prussian made china, marked as such Royal Rudelstadt, etc. This is because my grandmother had 3 or 4 fine examples that I had, in childhood, much experience looking at and handling the hand-painted items, and seeing/examining the marks on them. I can recognize a real one as opposed to a fake, in many cases, where the fake ones scream out to me and the real ones scream out to me. I cannot verbalize exactly what it is, but sometimes it comes down to recognizing style, and colors, etc. I can also "read" (enough to translate) old german schrift writing, although my actual German knowledge is pitiful. Again, it's because I had actual examples of real old writing, from my grandmother's day 1880's to 1920's and I practiced as a kid, trying to make it out. And I can usually tell when someone who did not grow up writing that way tries to fake it, because it doesn't flow.


The import of this is not what personal experiences everyone has with things that have been conceptually stored within their brains, the importance is that when you have something that is real, and you have experience with that real item, you have the capability of recognizing fake. But the table don't turn where if you have lots of experience with fakes, and don't know real, that you will be able to tell a real thing from that experience. Knowing real begets knowing fake, and Knowing fake does NOT beget knowing real.

 

tHATS BECAUSE IT IS NOT LIKE THE OTHER COINS ...IT IS DIFFERENT BUT THAT DOES NOT MEAN IT IS FAKE ....I HAVE DOOCUMENTED HISTORY THAT GOES WITH MY THERORY

i ALREADY NO ITS NOT LIKE THE OTHERS ....FAKE ...REAL COUNTERFIT FORGED

WHATEVER THERE ARE NO OTHER COINS LIKE IT .....IT IS UNIQUE AND IF YOU READ THE HISTORY REGARDING SILVER ..AND COPPER PRESENTATIN COINS COUNTERMARKS COINS THAT DIDNT GO INTO PRODUCTION.. COINS THAT WERE CAST ,,HAND STRUCK DEFACED AND RESTRUCK ...OVERLAID


IT FITS !!! IT IS A POSSIBILITY

 

Do you have first hand knowledge of this (i.e. were you there, with Mr Murdock, when he supposedly transferred all those coins to another great uncle?) with each and every coin in that pouch? Unless you have written provinance for all these coins that unassailably documents these and the hands they were in, then it is no more than a 'story'. And there are lots of 'stories' going around. Plus you say that with this particular coin, that Mr Murdock gave to someone before he went on the Titanic, were other coins of his dating after 1912. Which, is an impossibility. It is a story, and nothing more. Further, the actual coin in question proves by itself, as a standalone document, so to speak, that it is not real, and therefore could not have been with anyone in 1912, whether it was someone on the Titanic or anywhere else on earth.