best explanation WINS

:yes:get that slabbed by these guys :yes:

 

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Yes I understand that but...the reason I mentioned it is because it refers to the same time frame and it shows that it is possible for a coin to be have been made that was not put into production that has little to no information about its existence.

It also makes reference to the relation of a coin and paper money of similar design

 

I asked the question ...you on the other hand have once again avoided providing me with answer and once again you have tried to cover up your lack of knowledge with whatever it is that you think will make me look like i am the ignorant one.

oh and by the way you have made a spelling mistake ...ITS BOBO the clown not HOBO

 

yes but if they were waiting for a loan of silver the plan was at the time to make the coins out of silver then there would have been plenty of them circulating and this one may have been able to slide through as it had been countermarked.

I'm not 100 % sure but I remember reading that when the silver coins actually did go into circulation the ruler of china was very pleased with them and declared them acceptable ....so even more reason for them to go through

thanks for taking the time to reply

 

First, HONG KONG is NOT a chinese chop mark. I have many coins that were chopmarked in China in the 18th and 19th centuries ma'am, and not one bloody one says HONG KONG. So, that theory is bogus.

Second, WHAT silver coins are you even talking about? China produced their own silver later in the 19th century, and there has never been an example of a real Continental Currency dollar circulating in China. Surely you are not trying to say the Chinese Emperor was refering to a Continental dollar are you? Do you have a reference for such a comment?

I will keep debunking your myths as you write them.

Btw, for the seventh time, WHAT DID YOUR "REAL" EXPERT TELL YOU ABOUT YOUR FAKE COIN? Sorry, I simply get mad when people think they can "slide by" by making a statement at one point and refuse to follow up.

 

Thank you for the contest Irish eyes. I would dare to speculate that an English dollars (5 Shillings) was used. This would be a 1776 Spainish 8 realies that was counterstamped by the Bank of England. This coin in turn would be counter stamped by the Chinese assayer named Yong Hong. See Krause KM #624

 

I'm still looking for the pictures of this Hong (Yong) Kong Koin.

Have they been removed? If so why?

 

Is Hong Kong supposed to be in this grouping?

 

I am not sure if you are just saying this to agree with me or not.....i have had nothing but wise cracks and jokes even though i have provided documented proof.

I hope you are sincere and not pretending to be a fool like all the others

thank you
aNdrea

 

DEBUNK ...\if you read what I said properly I didtnt say the HONG KONG was a chopmark I said it was a counterMArk

I have not sent it to an expert I'm not sure how to do that and I dont want to loose it in the mail etc

 

That, my dear, earns you a spot on my rapidly-growning Ignore List.

 

....but you said you were meeting him on Saturday to get the "real experts" opinion? You couldn't meet him? You have not shown this piece to a coin dealer or a coin expert?

Btw, a chop mark IS a countermark. If you were knowledgable about numismatics you would know that. A chopmark is simply chinese countermarks. I have examples of many coins with chop marks, and you know what? Not one of them, (from the hundreds), are in English! besides, this whole argument ignores the obvious that your HONG KONG cannot be a countermark, because its included into the design and not punched later. Therefor, you are saying the die was reengraved to show HONG KONG. But, its blatantly obvious that your coin was NOT struck, it was cast since struck coins could not show that massive edge rim. So, you are saying that the US cast a coin, (when they have never in their history cast a coin), to have circulate in Hong Kong, (which did not exist really until the 20th century), a coin in english, (which most of the natives there could not read and therefor would not even recognize), a copper coat coated with a silver metal, (which would easily be spotted as a fake and be rejected, btw there is no proof your silver metal is even real silver), even though these coins were COMPLETELY foreign to them. And all of this you KNOW had to occur before 1912 because of your family story about these coins being somehow involved with the Titanic.

Does that sum up your hypothesis?