best explanation WINS

That's where I got lost reading all this. It seems they are trying to compare Continental Currency to NH cents. Just figured i would provide some info on NH cents

 

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By the same magic that allows so many Bank of the United States $1000 bills with the serial # 8894 that were printed in the late 1950's to show up in "Great Great Grandad's Civil War trunk which has been handed through the family for well over a hundred years".

And it is highly unlikely that anything would have had Hong Kong stamped on it in english before the British took control of the area in 1897.

 

Just curious, as I have asked for the fifth time now, are you ever going to tell us what your "real expert" said about your coin Irisheyes? I can tell you are reading my posts, though you just seem to throw out random facts rather than actually answer one single question I ask you. Did you ever see your "expert"? Did he agree with us or you?

 

[to be played with the music, "When Irish Eyes Are Smiling"]

When Irish Eyes are Smiling, all the fakes are bright and gay,

with a hint of cointalk laughter, you can hear the experts say,

A Hong Kong coin is suspect, even much to your dismay,

but when Irish Eyes are smiling...........would this thread please just go away.

 

We always seem to have a "rascal" in our midst.

 

No one can be like this for real. Can they? God, please tell me no so my faith in humanity isn't destroyed.

 

Reality happens on many levels. Just stick with the ones whose reality is close to yours and you should be fine.

 

ACCORDING TO SOMETHING I READ ...When Britain's American colonies declared their independence in 1776, one of the greatest problems facing the Continental Congress was financing the war effort. The supply of refined silver and gold, as well as the raw ore from which these metals were taken, was quite small in the American colonies. The great gold and silver discoveries of the 1800s were still decades away, and the only coining metal available from domestic mines in any reasonable amount was copper.

I have not had one answer to my question you are all avoiding it and going on and on about how you have tried to help....

Noone has been able to show me another coin with HONG KONG stamped on it any coin not one

Not one answer with or wthout proof for back up as to why someone would make it or when it may have been made

i have proof for everything I have said

so I ask you all one last time ...does anyone know why a person would make a coin out of copper ..then plate it with silver.... age it
deface it to remove the very words that make the coin what it was made to be a symbol of American freedom and the stamp it with HONG KONG ..I doubt it would have made a popular souveniour !!

The only thing anyone could come up with is so they wouldnt have to stamp copy on it ........whats the difference and most of the copy stamps are somewhat discrete not right in the center of the coin.


Like I said i have more verifiable documented reasons why this coin would have been made ....its not Rocket Science


but for some reason all the guys who love to blurt out thier opinion any chance they get ....have nothing to say .....


except wise cracks and nitty gritty jabs at simple ,irrelevant grammar errors......so......if you dont have something nice to say ....and you dont have any documented proof to back it up ......then dont say anything at all

 

I know exactly how you feel ...I have asked one simple question and although I have had many replies ...not one has been an answer .....period.

Its not that they are telling me what I dont want to hear .....they arent addresing the question .....so I will make you a deal ....I'll answer your question but will you answer mine......


somehow I find it hard to believe ...

 

to make a profit ..

 

According to something I read - There's a bunch of hoo-ha going on in this world.

 

782 veiws ...70 replies ..and the only answer i got was .....TO MAKE A PROFIT


I provided information regarding the laws on coin acceptance in China ....experiments in ENGLAND ... proposals in America ..who said what... who made what ...the shortage of silver ....coins and events before the war during the war and after the war ....I have given legitimate reasons backed with documented history
........I have even offered a nice new coin book and all I get is

TO MAKE A PROFIT

no explanation ....no reason ....nothing

 

Guess you're out of luck in finding what you are searching for. Good night.

 

Thank heavens!!! Our suffering is nearly over!!! This is the LAST TIME she will ask the question!!!

(That is, unless she goes back on her word and asks the question again . . . and again :dead-horse:. . . and again . . . and again :dead-horse:. . . and again . . . and again :dead-horse:. . . and again . . . and again :dead-horse:. . . and again . . . and again :dead-horse:. . . and again. :dead-horse

 

Why?

The coin was made of base metal and silver plated for a profit.

The reason for the 'Hong Kong' was to establish the apparent veracity of the coin as valid metal, ie silver.

It was probably meant to circulated as coinage, along side coinage of the era and quite possibly did.

This would be similar to contemporary counterfiets of the Bust coinage era.

In fact, there are so many fakes of the Bust era that there is a reference book dedicated to collecting them.

 

Comptemory counterfeit coins often show counterfeits having trouble trying to write English characters, like how people who have no knowledge of writing foreign characters attempting to copy Chinese characters and just fail miserably.

Canton system and opium war comes to mind. Here's a good link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canton_System If Hong Kong was a legal terriority and had a chopmark of "Hong Kong", some might think it's legit.

Conclusion: Traders attempted to fraud the lucrative trade in China back in those days.


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Ok let's put this crazy story aside: what made you think it's made back in those days, not modern day fantasties, absurd counterfeits like 1990s onwards? I want evidence this time. Aging is extremely easy to fake so please don't use this excuse unless you have carbon dating test done.

 

It's a toy, a replica, made in the 1960's. You're obsessing over it and wasting a lot of time and energy trying to convince everyone otherwise. You have failed to sway anyone. Toss it into your junk bucket or get it certified. Until then, goodbye and good luck.

 

Awesome Nice Collection.

 

:hail:

 

To address a few things, there is no way this could be a "sample" to be presented for approval. The only things that mattered were weight and fineness. Any "sample" coin would have to be full weight and fineness in silver, these would be the only things checked, to make one out of some inferior metal would defeat the purpose, it would be rejected at once. I also don't see it being one made with a counterstamp to fool merchants into thinking it had already been checked. If someone was to do this they would choose the most commonly seen coin, like Spanish silver, that would most likely only get a cursory glance. The last thing they would choose would be something so unusual that few had ever seen, this would be the most likely coin to undergo close scrutiny. As far as Thomas Machin, I have collected colonials, including Machin and Atlee pieces for over forty years, I assure you there is no connection there.