I owned it for many years and it darkened over time. It didn't fit my set so I finally decided to sell it. No one on the bourse floor would touch it. I didn't even get lowball offers. Can you imagine? LOL. What would you have done? Dumped it for melt? Hawked it on ebay with nice bright pictures? Built a set just like it? It was graded AU55 by PCGS, FWIW. Lance.
Looks pretty neat. Has a vintage feel to it, but still classy. Resembles a "Rat-Rod" in a way! Personally, I would keep it, but then again, I keep anything old. ****, I am keeping a '49 GMC's guages & steering wheel, juts for wall hanging purposes... yeah.
The capped bust series is one of the few series that actually looks good with the "last stage" gunmetal toning. Very attractive piece! Of course that's what I expect coming from you.
I would have taken $500 for it. It's as genuine as they come. Not every coin tones with spectacular colors. Lance.
I agree. However, is there more luster than what shows? The photo looks very matte for the degree of wear. Btw my favorite CBH looks similar, but with some colors in it as well. Its about the same grade, and I bought it in 94 for $60 because according to other bidders it was "too dark".
The point I was trying to make is that while there is near universal acclaim for original, unspoiled coins -- when presented with the real thing...the look an old silver spoon might have, most collectors don't want it. Or won't pay for this kind of originality. Is it any wonder that these coins are dipped or treated? Who is to blame? Doctors or collectors? Lance.
Well I would blame collectors. If there was no market for "improved coins" nobody would bother dipping,etc. I would prefer this one by a country mile to a white one of the same era.
I would prefer the first coin posted to the 2nd coin posted to this thread, but even the first coin posted is a bit on the dark side for my taste. Depends on what it looked like in hand though, as I suspect it's not quite as dark as the photo suggests when you put it under a light (the clue is the slab looks dark which means the photo is a touch underexposed (i'd guess by a half to 2/3 of a stop)). I would do nothing to the coin but love it as is.
While it does have that look, I'm not so sure, Matt, that I would be so unequivocal. If it were completely original, I would not have thought it would have darkened recently, as lkeigwin reported (unless he has storage issues). Tell us, lkeigwin, how did you store the coin?
Personally I don't care for it, as others have said it is a bit too dark for my taste. But I think the coin has other issues as well that wouldn't help when trying to sell it. The large rev die crack is distracting and it has some light scratches and abrasions. Combine those things and you get the reason for people's reactions to it at the show. And I think you were a bit optimistic with your expectations of price, unless it is a particular variety that typically realizes more.
I'm sure it didn't tone much. It was probably my imagination. Sometimes I look at coins I bought a while back and think "Now where did that come from? I know I wouldn't buy that." Doug, I was not a big fan either, which was another reason to move on. Dark large cents are enough strain on my eyes. I didn't want a set of black CBH's. Aside for the fact that the market shuns them. (But I do love die cracks and clashing on bust coins.) As for expectation on price, I wasn't stuck on a number. I guessed $500; PCGS price guide is $650 (today). But I would have entertained low ball bids. (No special variety. O.101, I think.) The other 1833 I posted is an AU58 from the Roger Solomon collection, from last summer's Chicago ANA show. Spectacular coins Sheridan Downey was auctioning. This 1833 CBH is a gorgeous, flashy example with a light golden color and off-the-charts luster. I posted it for comparison, obviously. Probably dipped at one time. Certainly gently as it had no effect on luster. Coins like this are easy to sell for top dollar. Lance.