best explanation WINS

another fact based explanation from one of the experts

 

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Can you show us anything where "HONG KONG" was counterstruck on a coin made pre-1950.

 

so your saying fake coins made china need a copy stamp.

....so they made this coin in copper ...silver plated it.... aged it..... defaced it why bother puting hong kong on it why not put copy

or fake

you might want to check your info on fake coins made in china and the word copy..

thank you for your explaination

 

where are all the expert explanations

you were quick to jump up waving you FAKE FLAGS .

perhaps you are all busy learning something ......I found it very interesting !!

I am posting a better photo lets see how many casting bubbles you can find

 

what is known is...

• from 1776 -1787 there was a shortage of silver and the only metal available for coins was copper.
  - WRONG, there was ample silver worldside, in fact a surplus.
  
  
• it was illegal to accept anything but silver in china
  -Wrong, the predominant coin was a copper cash coin
  
• silver coins had to be chop marked or countermarked to prove they were legitimate before accepted.
  -Wrong, chop marks were just a way for a merchant to see he had verified a coin before, nothing to say they HAD to be chopped
  
• many copper coins were made privately and goverment approved for presentation bit never went to production most only a few copies. Counterfit included
  -True
  
• in 1792 it was documented that silver plated coins were being made in england
  -True
  
• the coins being used at the time in America were english
  -Wrong, they were Mexican primarily
  
• the 1776 coin was similar in ways to the spanish dollar which was used in HONG KONG
  -Wrong, until about 1850. Hong Kong before then was a swamp
  
• one type of chop mark is relief and says YONG HONG a chinese name
  -Never heard of it
  
• if a coin was silver and countermarked it was acceptable in china
  -Not true. If it was not the merchant's chop, they would still test it. Chops had nothing to do with acceptability. Pure silver, (which this coin would easily fail), was the mark of acceptability.
  

Those are my responses. How about answering my question as to my you assume the silver colored coating is silver? I know I won't win, but thought I would correct you on your myriad of errors.

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no i have looked ...and there is no other coin period that I have found that has HONG KONG on it like mine does.

I dont think they made many I think it was made to present as an example to hong kong

or it was made to try and fool poeple into thinking it was a real dollar coin made of silver and stamped HONG KONG to verify it was legit

I believe it is a possiblltity and not one of the experts has come up with a reason why it couldnt be

or any other reason why it was made and when ....I think they are in some sort of ccoin expert HUDDLE discusing their next plan of ATTACK on me ...they may know alot about cins but I know enough about this particular coin and the era frm which i believe it was made and I think they are wrong
and i am taking the steps to prove it

I think there are others wo have had the same response from them and some may have ended up selling a valuable coin for next to nothing ...but then again that is only my opinion I have no facts to prove it .....

 

that is cute

 

did you ever get that slabbed by ngc/pcgs yet??? :hail:

 

That's what I've been waiting for. Where the devil are the pics? This is the second thread I've encountered (same author) and still no pics.

 

excuse me I didnt want to say it word for word ...IN AMERICA there was only copper in any reasonable amount

Tao Kuang, Emperor of China from 1820 to 1840, issued an Imperial Edict, ordering that the only form of payment Chinese merchants could lawfully accept for the goods they sold to foreigners was silver coins OH arent we picky ok TO FOREIGNERS

In America the english coins were used more than the spanish world wide the spanish were used more


chop marks are different than counter marks counter marks were accepted without question ......by most
you are wrong the spanish dol;;lar was widely used in Hong Kong

 

Is there a gate opened somewhere?

 

why dont you just answer my question instead of picking it aapart with nitty gritty

details

 

why is that ..your leaving with an explanation

 

to be honest i dont even know what slabbed meansor NGC/PCGS

 

im sorry i thought i had posted one I tried to use photobucket but here are a few for now

 

come on guys take a crack at it !!!!


ill throw in a 1966 silver dollar not too sure if its small or large bead ....probably small

 

surely you have some idea