1834 type set?

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  1. Detecto92

    Detecto92 Well-Known Member

    Would it be hard to buy every type of us coin minted in 1834 not including gold? Already have a nice half dollar?
     
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  3. lincolncent

    lincolncent Future Storm Chaser Guy

    Hard? Not really. Ebay and the like. But you'd need
    1)Half cent ($30+)
    2)Large cent ($30+)
    3)Half Disme ($30+)
    4)Disme ($40+)
    5)Quarter ($50+)
    So it could get expensive pretty fast. Btw those prices are searching Ebay for average grade coins.
     
  4. Detecto92

    Detecto92 Well-Known Member

    Disme? They are not french.
     
  5. Detecto92

    Detecto92 Well-Known Member

    Do they make an all in one holder for it?
     
  6. noob76

    noob76 Member

    do able. quarter would probably be the most expensive, and the one you would most likely have to get off ebay.
     
  7. CappedBustDimes

    CappedBustDimes Senior Member

    You can get custom holders for your 1834 or any set here...http://www.coinholdersonline.com/

    If I were you, I would start out with an early type year/mint set that is much easier to complete...I recommend doing an 1816 mint set...PCGS and NGC will holder 1816 mint sets for you once completed.
     
  8. lkeigwin

    lkeigwin Well-Known Member

    Tough. If you were filling an album with redbook varieties, for large cents alone you'd need:
    - large 8, small stars, medium letters
    - large 8, large stars, medium letters
    - large 8, large stars, large letters
    - small 8, large stars, medium letters
    Great year, though. Go for it!
    Lance.

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  9. Detecto92

    Detecto92 Well-Known Member

    Um they made no half dimes, dimes, quarters and halves in 1816.
     
  10. CappedBustDimes

    CappedBustDimes Senior Member

    Tongue-in-cheek...On a serious note; all of the 1815 50c and small portion of 1815 25c were struck and delivered (in 1816) before the Philly Mint fire in late January 1816.

    "An outbuilding of the early U.S. Mint in Philadelphia caught fire in January of 1816. All the rolling mills used to roll out planchets for silver and gold coins were destroyed or damaged beyond use. New machinery would have to be procured and installed, but that would take some time. What to do in the meantime? You can’t make silver or gold coins, but you CAN make copper coins! So they minted large cents."


    THE "MISSING DATES" IN U.S. REGULAR ISSUE COINS
    BY JOHN H. MACMILLAN
    http://home.netcom.com/~jhm/missing_dates.pdf
     
  11. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    No but they were were referred to in Mint Records as dismes until 1837, the same year that DIME first appeared on the half dime and dime. Until that time either no denomination appeared or they had 5C and 10C. Except for the 1792 half disme and disme of course.

    No half cents either, that's what makes it such an easy year to collect a mint set of. :)
     
  12. mackwork

    mackwork Caretaker of old coins & currency

    Doing some searching it appears that the only coins struck by the US Mint in 1816 were Matron Head large cents?

     
  13. CappedBustDimes

    CappedBustDimes Senior Member

    "Of the Coins struck at the the Mint of the United States, from the 1st of January to the 31st of December, 1816, inclusive: viz.

    Silver Coins 47,150 Half Dollars
    20,003 Quarter Dollars

    Copper Coins 2,820,982 Cents

    Mint of the United States, Treasurer's Office, Philadelphia, 31st December, 1816."


    United States Mint Reports
    for the Years 1792 to 1892
    © 2000-2009 by Paul R. Hybert
    http://www.chicagocoinclub.org/lib/us/usmnt/mr.html
    http://www.chicagocoinclub.org/lib/us/usmnt/1816/mr.html


    I find it interesting that the mint could strike/press close to 70,000 coins in the 10 days before the fire?
     
  14. mackwork

    mackwork Caretaker of old coins & currency

    I guess (as usual) you can't trust anything you get on the internet!

    "Interestingly, the ONLY coins struck by the United States Mint in 1816 were Matron Head large cents! A fire had destroyed much of the minting machinery at the Philadelphia mint in January of 1816, mainly the machinery used to strike silver and gold coins. Rather than invest the time and money to replace the destroyed machinery, the mint officials chose instead to coin large cents, as demand for small change for our new nation was great. Besides, foreign silver and gold coins were still plentiful enough to fill the need for the coins of higher denominations."

    from:

    http://www.wikicoins.com/Matron_Head_Large_Cent


     
  15. kookoox10

    kookoox10 ANA #3168546

    Good luck collecting the year set, it's not as tough as it sounds as long as you don't go too crazy with the grading expectations. It's a set for all budget levels which makes it a sound choice. I think I might try my hand at one, maybe a civil war set in VF. For once Detecto, you've inspired me to try something with some challenge.
     
  16. Detecto92

    Detecto92 Well-Known Member

  17. kookoox10

    kookoox10 ANA #3168546

    If you're concerned with finding a suitable holder, you can always check out Capital Plastics. They make custom holders, but at a hefty cost. But it's worth checking out, they make some nice display presentations. And they have been in the business for ages, you have probably seen some of their holders at the local dealers, usually with gold screws in the corner, some in lucite. It wouldn't hurt to check out their website and get a quote.
     
  18. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    If this is something you really want to do, slow it down and take your time. Choose the coins carefully. Anyone can throw together a date set (exceptions noted) and be finished with it. But if you want a nice quality set, be patient and hold out for the right coins to come around. Spend your free time researching and learning of the coins you want to collect. You may want to wait a few weeks to see if this is still of interest or a new goal de jour appears.
     
  19. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Actually they are both right. Records from back then can be quite confusing. Coins were dated based on the calendar year but the mint operated on a fiscal year that ran from July to the end of June. Also coins were counted as they were delivered to the Treasurer by the coiner. Deliveries were not done on a daily basis but in batches.that could have been struck days or even a couple of weeks before. Finally dies that were in good condition at the end of the year would continue in use until they wore out or were broken.

    Now the Mint report lists production of quarters and half dollars in 1816, but no 1816 dated quarters or halves exist. So these coins were either struck in December and delivered in January, or coined in early January using 1815 dies. The only 1816 dated coins are the Matron head cents.

    As for making 70,000 coin in ten days, that isn't too surprising. They had at least two presses available probably more. A crew could easily set an average pace of 30 coins a minute. They worked a 10 hour day so they could strike 18,000 coins per day per press. Even if they only did half that rate that would be 9,000 coins per press or 18,000 coins per day. In ten days at that relaxed rate they could strike 180,000 coins.
     
  20. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    don't forget that the 1804 Dollars were struck in 1834 :D
     
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