It's crazy how better pics show the WAM better than the lousy pics. Reading the beginning of the thread, I was really ready to say "Hey, look at the serifs, it's a different font than CAMs." But after Merc's pics, yeah, it's legit. And maybe jhsmith a few posts above is talking about shield cents? Or he just is confused about what constitues a WAM and a CAM.
pretty sure i look at a early 90's penny and a new penny and can see the differance but i just want to know when they went back to wide am. or did they am i confused? could you post a pic of a close am and a wide am for me if you dont mind
Look at a cent before 1992, or whatever. The WAM has an A that is more of an arial font, and the CAM has more of a Sans Serif font. The bottoms of the A curve out on CAMs. Look at a few, that's how I can generally tell the difference.
They didn't go back to wide AM for business strikes. A business strike is for common everyday use for commerce (the change you have in your pocket), as opposed to proof or commemorative coins.
Yes, they should be close. If the pennies you are looking at have an S mint mark, then they SHOULD be a wide AM and not close. You aren't talking about the newer pennies from 2009 until the present are you?
im just tryin to see what year was close am and what year they brought back wide am if they did bring it back i know 93 was the las of the wide ams so are 2009 and newer close or new. basicly what year if they did, was the wide am brought back
neither. they aren't memorial reverses. the "CAM" and "WAM" designation only applies to memorial reverses.
We told you over and over that they did NOT bring back the wide AM for business strikes. The wide AM is only supposed to be on proofs. Don't bother looking for AM error on 2009 and later. If you have a penny from 1994 to 2007 and it has a wide AM and does NOT have an S mint mark, then you have an error, but so far the wide AM has only been found on 1998, 1999, and 2000. Edit: I know your frustration. I had the same confusion a few months ago. Go to this link and it will explain it. http://www.lincolncentresource.com/wideams.html
thank you all so much for being tollerant of my ignorance, i was just a bit confused. i am sorry for wasting your time but thank you so much for clearing that up for me. thank you very much for understanding pennsteve. if you dont mind guys can i ask one more question? and it may be just as if not more stupid than the last. i have some 1990 that looks a lot closer on the am than any of the others. and i would have to dig back through the jar of pennies now that this issue is clear, but i am pretty sure i have a penny from early 2000's with a wide, but i could be just a little more spaced than the others but not be considered and real wide am. so is there any way to put into layman's terms (for me of course) how to tell if it is considered a real wide am or if it is pre 94 a real close am? sorry to seem so stupid. but when it comes to this hobby i am about as dumb as it comes but i enjoy learning and thats why i am here, in hopes some people will enjoy helping me learn
look i am here trying to learn sorry i am not as smart as you cazkaboom (about coins only I AM SURE) but there is no need to be a smart a$$ about it. why cant you help some one who wants to learn? it boggles my mind why anyone would not be willing to help some one learn something they already know. I guess it takes all kinds. but please guys enough with the smart comments if you dont want to help just dont just move on, i am trying to learn if you are willing to help me then do so. please dont insult me. it really is pointless dont you have a life you can do something else rather than be rude and mean to people who are trying to learn. come on guys
Dearest Jhsmith, I am sorry to inform you, I as talking about the Original Poster's coin in hand. I see it that you may have mistaken it as otherwise, so I am going to say thank you for the kind words. Also, congratulations,you have just became the first person on my shart list. I am sorry you have been offended, but hey, this is the internet. Nobody matters, everybody sucks. There are a bunch of trolls, smart people, sarcastic people, and many of the others. There are also many people full of information who are just BURSTING to give it out. But to somebody such as yourself, they may look at the way you address others and see that it isn't worth it. I present to you Exhibit A: Myself. Sincerely, The Master Smart a$$
ok so can anyone tell me how to know for sure to determine if it is considered a wide am or not? is it if it is not completly touching at the corners of the letters, or does there have to be a considerable gap there like the wide ams from pre 93?
Try going to the link I posted for you twice. It will tell you how to tell if it is a wide AM or not. Here is the link a third and final time. http://www.lincolncentresource.com/wideams.html
@jhsmith87 The link pennsteve has provided is very helpful. It is the site I used to learn about the different WAMS and Cams and it will explain things as well as any of us can.
I'm thinking he wants to read it here instead of using the resources that everybody else uses. Cazkaboom, I understood your post completely.
I can relate.... you don't know how much work is involved in opening another page on your computer and locating the site you want and then having to click on stuff three or four times to get the info you want. Whew! I'm exhausted just talking about it!