1999 wam

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by ForTHEkids, Feb 13, 2012.

  1. ForTHEkids

    ForTHEkids Member

    I found this coin which I believe is a 99 WAM and I wanted to get a second, third and maybe forth opinion. I feel it is a WAM because in hand there is a noticeable spread between the A and M. The FG also appears very close to the memorial. What are your opinions? Thanks
    2009 WAM rev II.jpg 1999 WAM.jpg
     
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  3. Blissskr

    Blissskr Well-Known Member

    Maybe a better close up photo would help but it looks like a close/normal version AM to me.
     
  4. swish513

    swish513 Penny & Cent Collector

    that looks like a normal 99 to me, not the WAM.
     
  5. coinguy-matthew

    coinguy-matthew Ike Crazy

    If you could enlarge the AM and FG portions of the coin we could give you a definite answer, its just hard to make out with current pics to accurately determine. The AM portion does seem to have the tell tale signs as a wide AM, but as the die deteriorates it can leave what appears to be a space between the AM.
     
  6. vdbpenny1995

    vdbpenny1995 Well-Known Member

    Doesn't look good to me.
     
  7. Kasia

    Kasia Got my learning hat on

    I'm inclined to say it's a WAM. Reason is that the FG positioning above the last part of the bottom of the lincoln memorial on the right - It lines up with the middle portion of the G, where the serif goes into the curved part of the G, and it does not line up with the right side of the F (horizontal lines) at all, but goes to the right of it. That is the location of the FG relative to the memorial. On the Close AM, the bottom right of the memorial lines up with the horizontal portions (right edges) of the F, and the G has no serif, it is a sans serif font. Rather, it aligns with the inner curved portion of the G.


    That is what I'm seeing from the pic that's up right now. But it's not exactly clear. I would feel better if you get another one, only focusing on the FG and make it a really good, unambiguous one.

    That is the actual POP for this variety.
     
  8. ForTHEkids

    ForTHEkids Member

    Thanks everyone for your comments. I will try to take a better pic to post. Maybe then we can all come to an agreement one way or another.
     
  9. Merc Crazy

    Merc Crazy Bumbling numismatic fool

    I think it's a WAM. I can see the separation, and with poor quality photos/scans like that, I usually wouldn't be able to if it was a CAM.
     
  10. kookoox10

    kookoox10 ANA #3168546

    Yes, looks like a WAM. Enlarged with my smartphone and it looks pretty good.
     
  11. ForTHEkids

    ForTHEkids Member

    1988A WEB AG REV.jpg
    I believe everyone can enlarge this scan. If this is not better I will get a picture in the morning. Thanks
     
  12. Kasia

    Kasia Got my learning hat on

    Pretty sure it is a WAM. Nice.
     
  13. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    99% No (add a clear image for the other 1%). A wide AM is pretty darn obvious when one is in hand. Any need to think about it or second guess one's self should give the answer. The A should be noticeably farther away from the M - as the M is to the E - something that does not appear to be on this coin. There is little reason to concern yourself with the DI (sounds like a Potter book PUP). If its a wide AM it will pop when compared to the normal reverse, something this one does not do from what I can see. Honestly hope I am wrong about this one though.
     
  14. Merc Crazy

    Merc Crazy Bumbling numismatic fool

    The more I look at it, the more positive I become that it's a WAM.

    OP, if you want to mail it to me, I'll take a look at it, take some high quality photo's, and mail it back to you. For free.
     
  15. Cazkaboom

    Cazkaboom One for all, all for me.

    Just to tell you, the poster above ^^ Is legitimate.
     
  16. zach67005

    zach67005 Active Member

    This may be in reference to our PM conversation. I like the FG on this shot from my PC instead of my phone. Back to PM?
     
  17. d.t.menace

    d.t.menace Member

    I croped and enlarged the OP's pic and I think it's a WAM. The initials made me think it was a close AM but I think the die was polished making it appear the G was further away from the memorial than what it really is.
     

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  18. chiefpaul

    chiefpaul New Member

    OK newby question. Should the distance equate to one say from 1990. If so, can I have a picture from 1990 at say 40x and a 1999, 2000 etc at same power have a side by side coparison to identify. Trying to figure out best way to identify these var. I'm sure I've miss identified these coins.

    Paul
     
  19. ForTHEkids

    ForTHEkids Member

    Merc crazy thanks for the offer. I will send you a PM to get the mailing info.
     
  20. ForTHEkids

    ForTHEkids Member

    Thanks D.T menace for taking the time to blow up my image. On my computer I am able to enlarge the photo to a point were it IMO is evident that this is a WAM but I have not figured out how to save the blown up picture.

    My reason for starting this thread was due to the fact I tried to trade this coin as a 1999 WAM and there was some question as to whether it was a Wam. ( and according to this thread there still is). I would not want to represent something I was not 100% accurate with so I think with the help of Merc crazy I will get some quality pics and we can get to the bottom of this.Thanks again everyone for your comments.
     
  21. Merc Crazy

    Merc Crazy Bumbling numismatic fool

    Hopefully I'll have some pics for everybody in a couple days. :)

    Here's one of my two '99 WAM's, the nicer one. Pics aren't the greatest as I was lazy and left it in the 2x2, lol.

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