IHC Question

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Cazkaboom, Feb 9, 2012.

  1. Cazkaboom

    Cazkaboom One for all, all for me.

    Hey all,as many of you may already know, I am a silver junkie. But I have purchased an IHC from the shop for a type set I am looking at completing someday. I have posted this quite a while ago, but never thought I should ask my question.
    So here it is:
    Is this IHC Cleaned? If not, what grade would you put on it?
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  3. lkeigwin

    lkeigwin Well-Known Member

    I think it looks fine. I'd grade it 50 on a good day.
    Lance.
     
  4. Cazkaboom

    Cazkaboom One for all, all for me.

    That's not bad for a $0.75 purchase. Thanks Lance!
     
  5. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Heck, looks fine to me. :)
     
  6. swish513

    swish513 Penny & Cent Collector

    doesn't look cleaned to me. i'd grade it xf.
     
  7. Duke Kavanaugh

    Duke Kavanaugh The Big Coin Hunter

    Nice for 75 cents for sure
     
  8. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    I think it has been cleaned but not harshly.
     
  9. BRandM

    BRandM Counterstamp Collector

    I think it may have been lightly cleaned also Caz, but not offensive in any way. A great looking copper though.

    Bruce
     
  10. kanga

    kanga 65 Year Collector

    Cleaned?
    IMO, no (but I'm not locked into that).
    It would be nice if those that thought it might have been would tell us what they see that makes them think that way.

    Grade?
    XF
     
  11. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Took the words right of my mouth.
     
  12. swish513

    swish513 Penny & Cent Collector

    doug, is there a coin out there that you would say has not been cleaned?
     
  13. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Sure, lots of them. But there's a whole lot more that have been cleaned.

    Just make sure you remember that there is a huge difference between the terms cleaned and harshly cleaned. Most people mis-use those terms, I do not.
     
  14. ctrl

    ctrl Member

    Don't forget "improperly cleaned", which according to TPGs includes both terms.

    For the IHC, I'd also say lightly cleaned, because of the greater-than-relative difference in the glistening on the upper parts of the detail.
     
  15. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    No, it doesn't. Harshly cleaned and improperly cleaned do mean the same thing though.
     
  16. ctrl

    ctrl Member

    Well then, they made exceptions for me. In my opinion.
     
  17. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    I agree that "improperly cleaned" and "harshly cleaned" are in fact the same, since you can clean a coin properly, in a method that is not harsh, (like maybe this coin).

    What I really want to say that the OP coin for $.75 was a SCREAMER deal. Anyone else have any like that they wish to sell I will buy 500 to start with. :)
     
  18. Cazkaboom

    Cazkaboom One for all, all for me.

    This is why I love going to my local coin shop. I have found many cool items at great deals such as a 1909 Lincoln Cent at 5 cents! Some silver Ikes at $3 under melt and an 1875 seated dime in the junk dimes at $2.25. I love it there because they just seem not to care what they throw in the bargain bins.

    ~Cannyn
     
  19. mikem2000

    mikem2000 Lost Cause


    ?? What exceptions? For the purpose of coin grading, the terms harshly cleaned and improperly cleaned are interchangeable. The IHC in question has market acceptable cleaning IMHO. The cleaning seems light with no abrassive markings

    Mike
     
  20. ctrl

    ctrl Member

    TPGs will readily return a coin as "Improperly Cleaned" even if it hasn't been "harshly cleaned", no abrasions but rather dipped, even long ago.
     
  21. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    I think sir you may be putting different weight or connotation to "improperly" and "harshly" than others. "Harsh" would include scratches as well as chemical harshness, so that "harsh" is the same as "improper".

    Bottom line chemical cleaning can be judged "harsh", not just scratches. :)

    Hope that helps. Don't worry, took me a while to get it through my thick skull too.
     
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