The Grading Services, who to trust?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Kanderus, Feb 7, 2012.

  1. Kanderus

    Kanderus Active Member

    I know it is not a rare coin, but I have a 1954-S Washington Quarter that I am considering getting slabbed, just to wet my feet a bit. This will be my first coin I will have slabbed, so I know what to expect once I finally get my hands on a 1932-D or 1932-S, and other key dates.

    I know that PCGS and NGC are the big dogs, but I don't have a lot of money to toss around. I see a lot of ANACS and ICG slabbed coins on eBay and other sites. Can these guys be as trusted as PCGS and NGC? For instance, would a coin graded F-12 by ICG or ANACS come back G-8 by PCGS or NGC (assuming I broke the coin out of an ICG slab and sent it in.)

    Also, what is TPG? Top Pro. Grader?

    Thanks

    -Rob.
     
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  3. Fall Guy

    Fall Guy Active Member

    TPG - Third Party Grading

    I only stick to NGC and PCGS coins. I'll let others with experience in other companies chime in.
     
  4. Kasia

    Kasia Got my learning hat on

    I think, based on comments before on this forum that NGC and PCGS are the two to go to if you want to have a graded coin that holds it's value. That being said, you will probably want to have 5 coins to submit at one time, not one. The cost of doing just one will be a lot. You have to get the coin to the graders, and then they send it back registered mail. So that usually runs at least 22.00 for the mail one way. The grading for one coin is more than for 5 coins (per coin) and you will want to have US separate from World coins.

    Unless your 1954 S quarter is like a MS 69, I wouldn't do that just to get your feet wet. But of course, it's up to you. Most people here don't recommend getting a coin slabbed unless it's value is at least 100.00.

    I say, enjoy your coin unslabbed for now. Maybe when you get four more, if you still want it slabbed, then put it in with the rest.
     
  5. icerain

    icerain Mastir spellyr

    NGC and PCGS are chosen more because they are supposed to be more strict with grading. I think more people choose ANACS just to authenticate a coin.
     
  6. jcakcoin

    jcakcoin New Member

    NGC, PCGS, and CoinTalk
     
  7. Cazkaboom

    Cazkaboom One for all, all for me.

    Let's start making CoinTalk slabs :devil:
     
  8. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Wetting your feet a bit? Go with ANACS. It won't cost you a bundle and you'll have a coin slabbed by a reputable service. Keep in mind what others have said (written) in this thread........
     
  9. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    I think this is a pretty good idea. They aren't the best grading service and in the past few years their quality has declined, but if you want to "get your feet wet" they aren't terrible and not too expensive. Personally, I believe that PCGS and NGC are the only "good" grading companies...but I think for your purpose ANACS is fine.
     
  10. wheatydigger

    wheatydigger Member

    The real question is, who not to trust? there are alot of untrustworthy grading companies, so you have to watch out for them.
     
  11. jom

    jom Well-Known Member

    Since you don't have a lot of money to "throw around" you might want to ask yourself WHY are you spending money to have the coin certified. If it is just to get your feet wet then maybe you don't mind throwing money around if you know what I mean. I think this is a good question because if you aren't selling the coin then why bother slabbing it? If you are concerned about the coin safety there are other ways of storing a coin that are a LOT cheaper.

    Also, even if you wanted to sell it sometimes it is NOT worth slabbing regardless. What do you think your coin is worth (grade)? If it is just a well-worn example you might be wasting you dough.

    jom
     
  12. 2schnauzers2luv

    2schnauzers2luv Junior Member

    I sent a 1915 Lincoln Cent to ANACS today. My first time ever sending a coin to a TPG. My (OUCH) costs:

    5 Day Service= $29.00
    Postage= $5.35
    Registered Mail Fee (Which is what ANACS advised)= $13.50
    Shipping cost to have coin returned to me= $20.00

    TOTAL: I'm not even going to add it up. I don't feel so well right now. Excuse me.
     
  13. GreatWalrus

    GreatWalrus WHEREZ MAH BUKKIT

    That's just ridiculous 2schnauzers... makes me never want to bother getting my coins graded, unless I have something in the hundreds of dollars in value
     
  14. Bill in Burl

    Bill in Burl Collector

    I think that schnauzer's post above with the cost rundown says it all. Unless you have a coin whose REAL VALUE is more than $100, it is not even close to worth it to have it slabbed. By REAL value, I mean what it is worth to an actual person, not what it says in a book. If a book lists a coin at $100, but you can buy it by looking around for $50-60, it's not a $100 coin .. it's a $50-60 coin. With the cost of TPG'ing your out-of-pocket (including the purchase price) expenses will be more than the coin will ever be worth. Put your coin in a 2X2 and save yourself $40-50 to buy another 6-7 coins just like the one that you have now.
     
  15. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Schnauzer could have lessened the cost by $15 per coin if he had waited until he had a 5-coin minimum. What was the big rush to have that single coin certified?

    http://www.anacs.com/contentPages/Services.aspx

    Chris
     
  16. Kasia

    Kasia Got my learning hat on

    Thanks 2Schnauzers2love for the breakdown. It takes courage to post that. Hope you enjoy that cent.
     
  17. rodeoclown

    rodeoclown Dodging Bulls

    If you're not a dealer and don't plan on selling your coins, why bother getting them slabbed? To me you're just wasting your time and money.

    The OP said, "but I don't have a lot of money to toss around" which is every reason not to send a coin off to get slabbed. You said this is a 54-S Quarter? That's like a $30-$40 coin tops if it comes back as MS65 or higher. That alone isn't worth slabbing as well. Why not just be happy with the coin and not whatever slab/grade it got shoved in?
     
  18. TheCoinGeezer

    TheCoinGeezer Senex Bombulum

    If you join the ANA, you get submission privileges to NGC included as part of the membership package.
    I like NGC but the market seems to prefer PCGS, for reasons that escape me.
    I personally will not submit a coin for grading unless it's worth at least $100.
     
  19. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Rob -

    While I understand what you are wanting to do, there is much easier, and cheaper way, of doing it. And you don't have to send any coins in.

    All you need to do is go to a coin shop, or better yet a coin show, and start looking at slabbed coins in person. When you look at a coin completely ignore the grade on the slab. Just look at the coin. Then assign the grade you think it is. Then look at the slab.

    That will tell you exactly the same thing that you sending a coin in will tell you. But it won't cost you a dime. And by doing it that way you can look at coins slabbed by all of the different companies and compare them to each other, to see how each of them grades.

    You learn by looking at coins, not by sending coins in to grading companies. And the idea is to learn before sending coins in to grading companies. Not afterwards. That way you don't waste money or send in coins that you should never have sent in to begin with.
     
  20. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    I like Dougs answer as the first part no matter what - learn grading and what you like. At the same time I would ask what are you going to collect and how you are going to collect(raw or certified)? I know you mentioned a washington quarter and if that is what you are going to collect then decide how. If you want certified coins by them already certified - it will save you money in the long run. If you want raw - then buy them raw or certified(and crack them out). I have several sets I am working and the two biggies(my favorites) are raw. The IHC and two cent collections are graded - and I buy them already graded. Now on the IHC's I did send several in for grading - did okay on them, but I also knew the grading fee was worth it since they were semi-keys. Those have since been upgraded, but replace with purchased graded coins. Just something to think about.
     
  21. coinhead63

    coinhead63 Not slabbed yet

    Unless I am sure it would grade MS67 or higher, I would wait until I had a batch to send in. Also, I would only pay for standard service. Not everthing has to be "microwaved" unless you're expecting to kick the bucket really soon.
     
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