Got Wood?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by BadThad, Aug 13, 2009.

  1. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Looks like a whiz job gone bad to me.
     
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  3. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    You are going to have to explain that one to me. The streaks are obviously in the metal and the luster is all there. What is it that even makes you think of whizzing?
     
  4. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I would ask what makes you think it could be anything else ?

    It appears there are raised and incuse parallel lines on both the devices and the fields. And the only thing there is that can cause that is whizzing.
     
  5. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    They appear to me to be 100% flat both in the picture and definitely in hand. I really do not see them as raised or incuse.
     
  6. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    You have the coin in hand, I don't. But just out of curiosity, how come every line on that coin stops just inside the rim ?

    If that was just a bad alloy mix and the color differences run all the way across the coin, then those color differences should be on the rims too. They aren't.
     
  7. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    Wouldn't whizzing preferentially mark the high points i.e. the rims?

    Not everyone actually ends at the rim although most seem to. The ones that do go through the rim are quite light and hard to see, but they do. Explain it? Sorry, I cannot. However, if that were the case, it would also end at the letters and other devices. In stead they go through the cervices and up the side. That is most obvious in my pictures on the WE and on the ONE CENT.

    FWIW, I have often wondered if this type woody has a different cause than the older ones. These lines are so fine and defined rather than almost random and blotchy as the older ones. Could these be caused by the annealing process (i.e. some kind of grippers) or other places moving the sheet? And maybe the extreme deformation at the rim alleviates the cause for the graining? I guess I am mostly thinking out loud here.
     
  8. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    Who whizzes a coin in a straight line? LOL They put glasswool on a drill and buff the coin, I see no evidence of that and I've seen a crapload of wiz jobs.

    This coin was likely stored on something with lines in it face down. I don't think it's a "true" woody, but nonetheless, it meets my definition just by how it looks. To me...wood is wood, I know it when I see it. If there's something I don't like about it, it's not wood. :D You see Doug, it's all part of my evil plot to raise your BP by one point. :yes:
     
  9. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    Because they were rubbed off during circulation, this is an AU coin, no doubt in my mind.
     
  10. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    We've discussed this before....it's a mystery with a lot of theories. The best I can come up with is contamined roller press. I think the actual alloy is correct, but impurities are introduced during the planchet manufacture. I suspect just one of the rollers was usually contaminated, but sometimes both.....thus we have one sided and double sided LMC woodies.

    Doug, did your harshly cleaned LMC retone yet? I think it's been a year!
     
  11. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    I am not sure just what you are including in "a 'true' woody", but this one has lines on both sides and they are dead parallel. Another reason I find it hard to understand whizzed. I also believe it is unc, although something has happened to it. The rim is flattened from 8:00 to 10:00 both sides most noticeable on the obverse and something similar on the right half of the bottom step of the memorial.
     
  12. kaosleeroy108

    kaosleeroy108 The Mahayana Tea Shop & hobby center

    wat causes wood besides my emotions when i look at holly berry in sword fish???
     
  13. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    Improperly mixed alloy or at least most of them. It then tones differently as the different alloys age.
     
  14. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    This coin has the same look. The lines are on both sides.
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  15. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Not always, that is merely 1 way of doing it. A wire wheel, or a buffing wheel, held steady, creates perfectly parallel and closely spaced lines.

    LOL !
     
  16. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Dunno what it looks like now, I left it behind when I first left PA and came back to FL. But if you'll recall that thing re-toned in 3 days.
     
  17. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Yeah I remember that coin, and all the past discussions. Don't think we'll ever come to a reasonable conclusion unless we all manage to sit down one day and actually look at these coins in person. And even then it'll be iffy. Thad is too dang hard headed ya know :D And Dick, well, Dick is Dick ;)
     
  18. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    Uhm, that would be a good guess, me thinks.
     
  19. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    Got this one today. I like teh obverse, but the reverse is a bit on the bland side.

    1930- WG-60 O.JPG 1930- WG-60 R.JPG
     
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  21. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    You have to look closely, but the lines are there. I got it dirt cheap and I hope it will darken with age.

    1947- NTC 67 SL.JPG 1947- NTC 67 O.JPG 1947- NTC 67 R.JPG
     
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