Is my 1928 peace dollar real?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by coincollector_9, Jan 22, 2012.

  1. jloring

    jloring Senior Citizen

    Come on Hobo, you known the correct terminology is "replica" and are sold "only to make your collection more perfect" lol.
     
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  3. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    You berry funny man!
     
  4. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    Sometimes Hobo probably feels he is mostly talking to a black hole. He is approaching the question as he has been trained and trains others. The quickest and easiet way to separate possible fakes from real is physical measurements~ weight in grams, diameter, thickness in millimeters, attracted to a magnet, etc. Appearance is often very misleading unless you have the experience of seeing hundreds or thousands of similar coins in all wear grades. I would think that most household have a small ruler and a magnet of some sorts, and an inexpensive digital scale would be a long term investment. An expert who makes a decision on just a photo is supect. IMO.
     
  5. iGradeMS70

    iGradeMS70 AKA BustHalfBrian

    Here's my two cents- I believe the coin is a genuine Peace Dollar, but, like you said may be a possibility, the mintmark has been removed. The area where an "S" may have been present looks slightly distorted. Some simple friction with a sandpaper-like tool and a little elbow is all it takes to remove a mintmark.

    The odd color, that I think is a reason some members believe the coin's a counterfeit, was caused by harsh cleaning and/or whizzing.

    -Brian
     
  6. jloring

    jloring Senior Citizen

    True, Jim... unless the photo presents such overwhelming evidence that the coin is fake. IMO this photo meets that criteria.
     
  7. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    You got that right. I hope you can't read ALL my thoughts.
     
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  8. yakpoo

    yakpoo Member

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  9. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    I can't remember all the particulars but I do remember that the rims on 1928 Peace Dollars are different from the rims of 1928-S Peace Dollars. So, if you know what to look for, all you need to look at is the rims. Perhaps a Peace Dollar collector can enlighten us.
     
  10. yakpoo

    yakpoo Member

    ...even if the coin is an obvious cast fake? :scratch:
     
  11. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    Looking at the photo, I am not sure that there is an extra ray. First look at the shadow cast by the other rays which gives an idea of comparative heights, the "4"th ray appears to almost have no height, and is possibly a "figment" due to a depression to the west of it, making one think it is raised. Much better photos and from different angles are needed IMO if that ray is the determining factor.

    Jim
     
  12. brightspirit1

    brightspirit1 Member

    This coin just looks fake to me. It in not worn evenly (the feathers are worn, but "PEACE" is incredibly crisp).
     
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  13. Blissskr

    Blissskr Well-Known Member

    The coin looks like a fake to me in some of the pictures it almost appears like you can see cast lines on the edge.
     
  14. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

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    4 in the red circle, image from Red Book.
     
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  15. Blissskr

    Blissskr Well-Known Member

    What Red book cause my 2012 version there's only three rays? Although looking around at images it seems all the ones I've looked at dated 1921 have the four rays and I know they changed from high relief to a lower one after 1921 so maybe that's why 1921 have four but all others should have 3 rays perhaps.
     
  16. kaosleeroy108

    kaosleeroy108 The Mahayana Tea Shop & hobby center

    it's fake. the chinese jing shuansah might have got it wrong minted it..
     
  17. kaosleeroy108

    kaosleeroy108 The Mahayana Tea Shop & hobby center

    do a acid test on it..
     
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  18. jloring

    jloring Senior Citizen

    Liu Ciyun (formerly eBay's infamous “Jinghuashei”) often used the incorrect reverse dies on his coins.
     
  19. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

    That's from the 2010 edition, page 222.

    Just out of curiosity, is everyone else counting the ray that starts below the E in ONE and slices through the N? I am, and that's the 4th one I've been referring to.
     
  20. jloring

    jloring Senior Citizen

    Examine all the reverse rays closely. The ones on right of the eagle are completely wrong for a 1928 Peace dollar. Here's a closeup of the three rays below the "one" on a genuine 1928 plain:

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  21. Irish2Ice

    Irish2Ice Member

    The 1921 peace has 4 rays in that area. The 1928 is supposed to only have 3.
     
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