Check it out: Die Crack on garfield dollar

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by jd_2000, Jan 21, 2012.

  1. jd_2000

    jd_2000 New Member

    I just recieved a 2011 mint set and the Garfield dolloar has a split line coming from his head that I believe was caused by a pretty big die crack. Anybody seen any like this or have another interpretation?

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  3. cpm9ball

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    They were probably caused by a strikethrough from a piece of wire or something relatively thick. It doesn't look like a die crack.

    Chris
     
  4. jd_2000

    jd_2000 New Member

    It is hard to tell from my picture, but the lines are raised from the surface. Wouldn't that rule out a strikethrough?

    Jay
     
  5. cpm9ball

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    Jay, they could be retained strikethrough's. The lower edge of the top segment looks too uniform to be a die crack. My vote is still with strikethrough.

    Chris
     
  6. rockdude

    rockdude Coin Collector

    If it's raised it damage to the die. Or it's marks on the case.
     
  7. jd_2000

    jd_2000 New Member

    Chris, what is a retained strikethrough? Would that mean the wire or whatever was on the die remained on/embeded in the coin?

    rockdude, the error is definitely on the coin and not on the case/package.

    I'm attaching a higher res image zoomed in some more.

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  8. rockdude

    rockdude Coin Collector

    Retained means the object is still there. I say die gouges/damage.
     
  9. jd_2000

    jd_2000 New Member

    Thanks guys. So, in your opinion, should I keep the mint set or send it back for a replacement?
    I'm inclined to keep it because I find it interesting but I suspect it hurts the value if anything?

    Jay
     
  10. cpm9ball

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    First of all, if the die was accidentally damaged during production, this would be different from PMD and would not cause the coin to receive a lower or "details" grade. If anything, it might add to the value for the right collector.

    It doesn't look like a die gouge because the edges are too uneven. If the die had been gouged accidentally during production, you would expect to see a smoother flow of the marks.

    I'm still inclined to rule out die cracks and think it may have been due to a strikethrough. Maybe Mike Diamond will chime in to offer an opinion.

    In any event, I would keep it, too.

    Chris
     
  11. robbudo

    robbudo Indian Error Collector

    you could probably sell it on the bay for $20?
     
  12. cpm9ball

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    Jay, one more suggestion...........

    The next time you want to post a "suspected" error coin, don't mention "die crack" in the title. Most veteran collectors know that die cracks are pretty common, and they might ignore the thread. It would be better to simply ask, "What kind of error is this?" or something to that effect. That way, you might get more input.

    Chris
     
  13. robbudo

    robbudo Indian Error Collector

    thought: if it is a die crack, more will be discovered. If it is a struck thru (my bet, by the way), then no more will be discovered.
     
  14. CashDude

    CashDude Member

    There have been a few of these presidential sets posted here where people swore the marks were on the coin, but they ended up being on the inside of the plastic case when they cracked it open. Just saying...
     
  15. jd_2000

    jd_2000 New Member

    I admit I'm totally new to this and could be incorrect. I'll open up the set and take a look.

    Jay
     
  16. jd_2000

    jd_2000 New Member

    Thanks for the pointer. I see now that it would have been much better to ask the question instead of guessing in the title since I didn't really know what it was.

    Jay
     
  17. jd_2000

    jd_2000 New Member


    I opened up the set and the error is indeed on the coin.

    Initially I didn't think in looked any different out of the holder. However, after looking under magnification with a single light source from a variety of directions I'm pretty sure I was incorrect about the lines sticking up from the field.

    I now believe the lines are indented into the design and that Chris's initial analysis that this was a strike through is most likely correct!'

    Jay
     
  18. CashDude

    CashDude Member

    Cool coin. I bet you could make your money back from the set with that one coin, so you didn't really lose anything by opening it.
     
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