1876-CC w/ strong doubling

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  1. DW-coins

    DW-coins Slave to coins...

    Gotta love those Comstock load mint employees! Seems to me that reading glasses were a big luxury back in the day...

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  3. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    I'm wondering why only the words OF AMERICA got doubled. I'm thinking this may only be die bounce doubling but don't pay any attention to me because I'm not familar with this doubled die . Troy

    EDIT: this may also be what is called re engraved die doubling , I just am not sure right now.
     
  4. DW-coins

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    Nope, it's the real deal and a well established DDO.
     
  5. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    yup, the real deal, and a beauty.

    Is it slabbed?
     
  6. DW-coins

    DW-coins Slave to coins...

    Yes, it's in a PCGS "genuine" slab and cited for environmental damage. However after showing the coin to Gerry Fortin I've learned that PCGS has a difficult time with this variety. Apparently he has had a large number of these coming back with ED. It is well known that the dies were heavily damaged and for whatever reason PCGS isn't taking this into account when grading. Last I heard from Gerry he was going to have a conversation with Willis (or maybe Hall, can't remember) asking him to inform their graders about the advanced state of die degradation this variety stems from and how this may easily be mistaken as ED. My guess is the coin is somewhere between a VF to EF and I'm considering submitting it to NGC at the up-coming Long Beach show. I've a stack of GSA's ready for submission and thinking I'd just piggy back it with the rest of the coins.
     
  7. rockdude

    rockdude Coin Collector

    Great looking FS-10-1876CC-102. Doubling is also visible on the lower folds of the gown and upper portion of the rock.
    Page 29 Cherrypickers guide
     
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  9. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    It is a real DDO I don't know the class number but it is called pivoted hub doubling.

    On class 1 or rotated hub doubling like you see on the major 1955 or 1972 DDO cents the two impressions of the hub are rotated around the center point of the die. In pivoted hub doubling that rotation point is offset from the center of the die. In the case of this die the pivot point is somewhere around the T in UNITED. Now the closer you are to the pivot point the less displacement there is between the two images. All the lettering on the left side of the coin is very close to the pivot point and you really don't see any doubling. But OF AMERICA is as far away from the pivot point as you can get which is why it shows very clear doubling. (And why the doubling on the 1955 and 1972 cents show strongest out around the rims. That's as far from the center as you can get.) Another example of pivoted hub doubling that you might be more familiar with is the 1995 DDO cent. In its case the pivot point is close to 3:00 so the doubling doesn't show much on the date, but the LIBERTY is strongly doubled.
     
  10. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    condor101 your right about what you wrote and the rotated hub doubling is the most expensive type IMO. have you been able to find any of the 2006 elusive doubled die cent coins yet. I'm talking about the type with almost all the letters and date doubled. I have only been able to find two of them so far?
     
  11. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Haven't looked for any. I don't do modern stuff. Modern meaning after the introduction of steam presses and full die hubbing.
     
  12. iGradeMS70

    iGradeMS70 AKA BustHalfBrian

    Too bad it's the most common DDO for the date; The low-left 'C'.

    ... Find a low-right 'C' DDO and then we'll start talkin'. ;)

    Nice coin, DW! :)

    -Brian
     
  13. DW-coins

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    Well, I'm not going to lose any sleep over it, I found this coin in a very large box of silver dimes that I purchased a few years ago at melt (when melt was ~10x face). There was over 10,000 dimes in this lot, some still in original bank rolls, some in plastic tubes. I've no idea why this coin was stuck in a roll of circ Merc's but there it was. And it wasn't until maybe 6 months later that I noticed that cool doubling. I'm thinking I'll resubmit at the upcoming Long Beach show to NGC for variety attribution. Hopefully I'm not mistaken about die degradation vs. environmental damage.
     
  14. A-Numismatist96

    A-Numismatist96 New Member

    How do I make my own thread?
     
  15. icerain

    icerain Mastir spellyr

    Nice looking coin. Never seen a CC mintmark coin besides on a Morgan.
     
  16. rockdude

    rockdude Coin Collector

    Go to the main page 'Error coins' and click on 'open new thread'
     
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