Nazi Gold?

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by vdbpenny1995, Dec 22, 2011.

  1. vdbpenny1995

    vdbpenny1995 Well-Known Member

    Did they make any Nazi coins with Swastikas on them out of gold and not just plated as every ebay result is shown.
    - This is a serious question
    - If your going to call me prejudice, don't waste you time
     
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  3. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    Don't think so, they didn't even issue any gold patterns. There are 20 and 100 reichsmark gold coins with Hitler and a swastika on them, but these are Argentinian manufactured novelty pieces for selling to tourists. For some time they were considered period issues, but it has been realized they are post-war productions.
     
  4. GeorgeM

    GeorgeM Well-Known Member

  5. willieboyd2

    willieboyd2 First Class Poster

    The stories about Swiss gold coins having mercury in them from Nazi dental gold are urban legends.

    Someone worried about "political correctness" should not get involved with gold.

    From The Treasure of the Sierra Madre by B. Traven, published in 1935:

    The gold worn around the finger of an elegant lady or as a crown on the head of a king was more often than not passed through hands of creatures who would make that king or elegant lady shudder.

    There is little doubt that gold is oftener bathed in human blood than in hot suds.
    A noble king who wished to show his high-mindedness could do no better than have his crown made of iron.

    Gold is for thieves and swindlers.
    For this reason they own most of it.
    The rest is owned by those who do not care where the gold comes from or in what sort of hands it has been.

    :)
     
  6. FryDaddyJr

    FryDaddyJr Junior Member


    you're being coy I guess. I don't want nazi memorabilia or gold.
    I'll stick to AGE, Maples and libertads.
     
  7. Cazkaboom

    Cazkaboom One for all, all for me.

    Now why would people call you prejudiced? Nazi coins, although representing a hardship of many are just small zinc, aluminum, and silver, (No gold I have seen) nuggets of history. They are a key in understanding why, how, and when Germany started the Nazi Regime. I personally do collect Nazi coins because they are a fairly cool design and they are a must have in my WWII series I am trying to make.
     
  8. JCB1983

    JCB1983 Learning

    I appreciate the design, but I could not contribute to the sale of something that had so much hate behind it. For all we know, if there are Nazi Bars out there, they were probably molded from the teeth of the deceased.
     
  9. Cazkaboom

    Cazkaboom One for all, all for me.

    I don't sell these because I often get ridiculed because of my physical attributes of being blonde haired and blue eyed, but every now and then I get called a racist and give them a verbal beat-down on how My grandfather fought in WWII and brought some of the Nazi coins along with a Luger, gave the coins to his children and said "May you never forget" and I collect these to know the hardships others went through, and how many died, and so on and so forth. I have had one person spit on my shoes, and I made a quick flinch and they ran off faster than a racehorse. I did hear, actually, that for the reasons you state, and many more, that it is illegal to buy and sell these in the European Countries, France giving you 5 years in prison and melting the coin(s). Correct me if I have misinformation.
     
  10. scottishmoney

    scottishmoney Buh bye

    If you have any more than a meager holding of gold - no doubt there is a trace of it somewhere that has been stolen, looted, killed for, ripped out of mouths etc. It is a regrettable fact - it says nothing really about the gold itself but volumes about human behaviour. I personally loath the whole setup that was transpiring in Germany during that time, but one cannot bury their heads in the sands and pretend it didn't happen.

    The Nazis were notable for stealing whole countries, cultures, creeds etc. For example:

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    She is Austrian, notice the Austrian Alps behind her - she is holding an Edelweiss - an Austrian flower that is even recounted in a well known song. The Austrian National Bank had planned a 100 schillinge note with this vignette and many elements of the following note:

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    But when the verminous filth referring to themselves as "Aryans" rolled in they appropriated this design for themselves and used it on their note for 20RM.

    In 1947 the Austrians had the last gasp on this design, finally realising an issue of the note with a new feminine vignette and re-Austrianising the design:

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    A very lovely and pensive portraiture for this note:

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  11. chrisild

    chrisild Coin Collector

    Not correct. But since such urban legends help the sellers of such pieces, you will hear and read them in the US again and again. ;)

    Christian
     
  12. chrisild

    chrisild Coin Collector

    Oh dear, don't let the Swiss or Germans know then that the Edelweiß flowers which can be found in those countries are all Austrian. :rolleyes: May well be that Austria had planned a note design that later, when Austria was part of Nazi Germany, was issued by the Reichsbank. But neither the Alps nor the Edelweiß are "sole property" of any country ...

    As for the original question, no, there are no nazi gold coins with a swastika.

    Christian
     
  13. moneyer12

    moneyer12 i just love UK coins.......

    i collect nazi coins and i am jewish, any WW2 collection wouldn't be complete without them, as for european countries making it illegal to sell nazi coins, they appear on many european dealers lists and as far as i know there is no embargo on their sale.
     
  14. vdbpenny1995

    vdbpenny1995 Well-Known Member

    Because people can be very closed minded and jump to conclusions that anyone who associates with Nazi's are terrible people. It's history, it can't be avoided.
     
  15. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Gold coins from a lot of countries can probably be found to have traces of Mercury in them. Mercury was used for centuries in the mining of gold. Powdered ore would be sluiced over Mercury and the liquid metal would dissolve the gold out of the slurry forming an amalgam. The amalgam would later be refined to recover the gold, but with as sensitive as out detection equipment is today you can probably still detect the Mercury.
     
  16. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    No, Nazi Germany never issued a gold coin of any kind. Early Nazi coins were made from copper, bronze, nickel, or silver and as the war progressed they began to make coins from aluminum and zinc. But, they never minted any gold coins. I actually have a small collection of Nazi coins...some are in a photo album in my profile if you would like to take a look.
     
  17. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    Not only is it an urban legend, it doesn't make sense. Mercury has never been used in dental gold. Mercury is used (and has been for a century) in silver amalgam dental fillings...but not in dental gold restorations. The Nazi's didn't remove the silver amalgam because the precious metal could not be recovered from them in an economic way.
     
  18. scottishmoney

    scottishmoney Buh bye

    I watched a programme on TV on gold mining in Latin America where indeed they were using mercury in the gold mining process. Of course all the miners are exposed to it, but when life is cheap and short, they really don't care about the long term effects.
     
  19. scottishmoney

    scottishmoney Buh bye

    AH fancied himself a German, but in fact he was not even naturalized as a German citizen until like 1933 or something. But that aside, the Austrians sing about edelweiß, and maybe the Germans and Swiss do to a lesser extent.

    But the point is that the Nazis claimed a lot of culture, history, etc as their own when in fact it was NOT theirs. I was thinking about that the other night, how incredulous it was in history that an industrious, educated, religious etc people were duped by a motley group of fools. I recently read a book "A Woman in Berlin" by Marta Hillers that recounts how after the war ended people denounced the very fools that they voted into power a dozen years before and how they lead them to the penultimate destruction in 1945.

    It does make one ponder that such things can happen anywhere - not just Germany.
     
  20. chrisild

    chrisild Coin Collector

    Well, I sure don't sing about Edelweiß flowers, and do not yodel either. :) I just find it strange if anybody says that this flower "belongs" to that country only, or when people say (these days) that it is odd for Germany to honor the "Austrians" Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart or Bertha von Suttner on coins. Huh? But sure, saying that half of what could be called European culture is German, and usurping all this - or rather the bits that fit into some ideological concept - , is something that Nazi Germany did quite excessively.

    I think that the answer to the initial question is still a plain No. The German Empire (Deutsches Reich) issued its last gold coins in 1915; they continued to be legal tender, at least in theory, until 1938 though.

    Christian
     
  21. scottishmoney

    scottishmoney Buh bye

    Oh those lederhosen, yodeling about Edelweiß Ruhr valley people anyway! BTW no German gold coins were again issued at least by the Bundesrepublik until the commemoration of the end of the DM currency ca. 2000-1 with those gold marks. I wish I had bought one when the going was good. I did buy some of the last FF in gold but unfortunately I sold them back to buyers in France - at a decent profit, but they still would be worth more than that now.

    I wonder, what with the Euro in crisis mode and Germany having to pick up the pieces for the less fiscally responsible countries that will remain nameless - how are people feeling about being a part of the Euro currency in Germany? Any longing for the days of the DM when Germany's monetary policy reigned and the mark was a strong currency so much that it came to be the base currency used in other countries like Latvia, Bosnia etc.?
     
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