Success on Reporting Unethical Dealers?

The PNG is a professional organization that professes to hold its members to a high ethical standard. I would think it behooves them to publicize those members who have fallen short of the mark.

 

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As I stated, they couldn't.

 

I called the ANA today and they said they have a process for handling issues between members. An issue I have with the dealer was not an ANA member, but they still take those up with their due process, if the dealer is unresponsive to their letter then he/she has to appeal to the board of governors when he/she reapplies.

PNG has a binding arbitration process. I spoke with a PNG dealer on the ANA's board of governors and he was very helpful addressing his take on ethical issues. Presumably the members of that board are all interested in helping members with concerns.

 

Get a rope !!

 

Personally I believe PNG is more professional. I don't see a need to publicly declare the someone has been kicked out, or something similar. I do not recall other professional organizations posting in the paper or their websites any formal notice of disciplinary actions.

Just my opinion.

Chris

 

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Yes, you did say that.
But you didn't give any valid reason why they couldn't.

 

When lawyers get disbarred or doctors get disciplined or lose their medical license, it's a matter of public record, as it should be.
If the PNG wants to prove to the public that is indeed monitoring its members ethical conduct, then it's up to them to inform the public of its actions, otherwise it's just a paper tiger.

 

LIcencing of lawyers and doctors are are controlled by the government and therefore are always public record. The ANA and PNG are both private, non government, entities and are not held to the same standards. Should they advertize it? It depends, but it is ultimately the decision of the group one way of the other.

 

No I am not kidding. None of those are ethical challenges as far as the PNG/ANA are concerned. You are, of course, free to disagree.

The reality of the coin game is that there are all kinds of unscrupulous dealers (and collectors), and the ANA/PNG does little to truly police their own.

Paper tiger was a good way to describe them, IMO.

 

That should go without saying.

 

That makes the most sense. I realize there may be fears of liability issues, but at some point, an organization must enforce their rules. And unless the rules and violaters are made public, what's the point ? If those who wish to be shown to be ethical, responsible dealers cannot oust non ethical ones from their group, how can trustworthy relationships be built ? Isn't that the intent and purpose ?

Just sayin'

 

So, in other words, you don't know and can't explain it.

 

I disagree Doug. The PNG does audit who is using their symbol, and has sent legal notices to unauthorized sign posters from my understanding. I don't think anyone would dare post it in a major publication, and even shows I have seen and talked to a PNG rep cruising the bourse making sure no unauthorized signs were being displayed. We disagree I guess, I think something like this is best handled like other professions handle discipline, not out in the open.

Now whether they revoke the PNG membership quickly enough, or for enough cause, I cannot comment as I do not know enough to wish to say either way.

Chris

 

Why do you think the PNG should handle this internally?
They claim the high ethical ground.
It's up to them to demonstrate that to the public or else their claims are just hot air.
Sweeping the faults of bad PNG dealers under the rug is not conducive to inspiring public trust.

 

By my stating that should go without saying, I meant that it's a given that they wouldn't or couldn't.

 

Is there public notification when a CPA has his license revoked? How about an attorney or doctor? How about someone not being a part of the BBB anymore, is that published in the local paper?

I never said that PNG does travel the country, but if someone does have a PNG sign on their store, and they are not a member, it would be actionable since it would be fraud.

I never said I was right, its just my opinion. I do not see it as a legal liability as much as professional courtesy. Maybe the dealer agrees to leave voluntarily as part of a disagreement. If any member leaving is publicized, then he would be painted as a thief when maybe he isn't. If he can leave and not be published, and only those going through the hearing are published, you will simply create a situation where everyone leaves "voluntarily" at the last moment, thereby creating a false impression. I simply don't believe how the ANA does it is right, and kind of makes me hesitant to renew my membership there frankly.

Chris