is this morgan fake?

I just picked up 30 morgans. this one failed my magnet test. I use a very small earth magnet and place it on the top of the coin. I then tilt the coin and the magnet slid down this particular one much faster than the others.

I don't have a scale at the moment so unfortunately I cant weigh it right now.

http://i.imgur.com/i8PuG.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/v3bE5.jpg

 

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Images aren't loading for me, sorry, super super slow for the second one listed. You can attach images within the forums.

 

Okay, I can see most of the pictures now, but it's just too bad of a picture to tell if they're real or not.

 

If you are concerned, get a scale. I've seen a fake which would be undetectable based on the pics you linked, but it weighed less than 25 grams.

 

Well, if it failed the magnet test, it is definitely fake. However, that doesn't mean the others in the lot are genuine. Ninety-five percent of all Chinese counterfeits are non-magnetic and weigh correctly. Some are struck on 90% silver planchets. Many can fool even experienced collectors. One bad apple doesn't necessarily spoil the bunch, but I would have them all checked.

 

If I'm reading this correctly, the fact that a magnet didn't have any resistance at all is a good thing, not bad. If it sticks, the coin is fake.
Guy

 

Looks like my 1900, very well worn, dirt in the lower recesses around the relief both sides, looks like a piece of antiqued steel that's been buffed out.

However, I need to see a clearer picture of the reverse as something looks off to me at the bottom where the olive branches come together.

Any chance of sharpening those up a bit?

 

actually because of the properties of silver, magnets are supposed to slowly slide down the surface. if there is no resistance at all, then it is fake.

here is another picture of the front and back, a little better detail shown.

the luster on this coin is very strange, its almost mirror like, but i dont think its dmpl.

http://i.imgur.com/YGNBu.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/aWnRv.jpg

 

Is sliding magnets down a coin a good idea? Is that how to perform a magnet test?

 

there are a couple of videos on youtube showing it, if it slides down slowly thats a good thing, but doesnt mean its real (you must do other testing, as it could just be silver plated). however, if it slides very fast down then you can conclude that it is fake.

 

i agree

 

ive uploaded some slightly better ones if that helps

 

freeze test..lol..

 

how do i do a freeze test?

 

You need a real coin to compare to in order to the magnetic slide test, If both coin slide the same manner they both have same composition of silver in them (granted the test coin should still have lead core surrounded by a thick layer of silver but that is very unlikely). This is because silver's electromagnetic properties are unmatched by any other metal...

 

I know a thing or two about counterfeit coins and that is a new one on me. Can you cite a source for that method?

 

right, what concerns me with the one coin in the lot is that my magnet slides down considerably faster than the other coins in the lot.

just tried the ice test and it does immediately melt on the coin, which could just mean that it is silver plated with a lead core.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gUjuS5TzwI&feature=results_main&playnext=1&list=PL8F9643DB0A4B52D5

 

What was the source of your purchase? It wasn't a lot of 30 morgans for $100 on ebay, from China I hope.

 

I dealt with him on ebay, then bought outside of ebay on paypal for $870.