Who thinks this ebay coin is a real error

Sorry rascal but this last idea you have is not possible. I posted more in the other thread.

 

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Please tell us why the reverse of the coin shows no signs of a clash or the die being damaged.

 

you and rickmp have got all the information on this coin that you are going to get from me. I was going to tell everyone then you two jumped me before I had the time to post it.

 

You keep saying a hammered coin would have the rims beat in . Did you ever think that people who fake these things might have a little smarts . All it would take is to grind off the other coins rims and presto , the coin wont even touch the hammered coins rim . Just playing the devils advocate here . If you really think you have an error , send it in to Matt or PCGS or NGC , but you won't .

 

I agree that maybe he should send it to Matt, or anyone with more knowledge than "US" obviously. However, what makes you feel so sure, you and the other "PROS" are so right about the coin being "hammered"? I still think you and the other "pros" are totally wrong. I will stick to my knowledge on this one all the way until proven other wise by the "pros" including the moderators "hammered" opinion.

 

Certainly it is just opinions, However if one must choose "Pros" I would pick Mike Diamond over any of the grading services or those posting to the contrary opinion. And he isn't a moderator although he would be welcomed by me for his expertise.

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Mikediamond said:

 

toned coins I know I should keep my new finding hidden from everyone because of the way a small handful of whatever you call them have tried to run over me. I am not easy to push around and I will bump heads with anyone no matter who it is when i truely believe I'm right. the reason I never payed much attention to the reverse side of this coin is the fact that I didn't believe ICG has it labeled right as a MAJOR DIE CLASH and thought it would be impossible to be a die clash. I was thinking for sure that it was a dropped die filling from a die fragment , I suppose I was just hoping too hard.

Today I kind of come back down to earth and decided to check out ICG's opinion. I don't know how in the heck they got it right , but they did. right away I could see that ICG had done it right. The reverse side of the coin is rotated absolutely perfect to match the clash marks of the memorial building on the obverse side. The best proof that I saw is a big die dent on reverse side of the coin right thru the side of the memorial building directly opposite of the clash marks. this bend in the die allowed the details of the memorial building to clash up in the recesses of the obverse die. now we can put this one to bed.

now for all of you non believers you can start believing.

 

I don't know enough to buy error coins. I still find a few roll searching, but a lot of the "errors" I see listed on eBay don't look like happened at the mint. But this has been educational reading, albeit confusing. But if a small hole can be drilled in a 1916 dime and enough metal forced into it to create a D mint mark, I imagine any sort of "error" can be faked. But errors do occur and that's what keeps us looking.

Thanks for the thread,

gary

 

This is the reverse image that was posted. I'm not seeing any damage.

 

after the way I have been treated on this thread I don't think you deserve a reply but I will anyway. this will be my last reply about this awesome coin to you and your pal rickmp so listen and try to learn. the die dent on this coin is only visible when looked at from a angle . the photo is of a almost straight away shot. the big die dent starts at the C in CENT and goes up on a right hand turn and ends near the M and E of AMERICA. for a while I thought the reverse die for this coin had been changed but after closely looking at the coin this is the original reverse die that helped to make this unusual clashed die coin. the rotated reverse and the big die dent confirms it. this may be how ICG learned how to identify it. now please stop your bickering and pay attention and try to learn along with the rest of us. from now on I will not reply to ridiculous posts.

 

Gary you are welcome and I'm glad you enjoyed my thread. this is one reason I started this thread is so folks that wants to learn can learn.looks like a few folks wants to put old rascal down but they don't know how bull headed old rascal can get. Gary I wish you all the luck in the world finding some good error or variety coins. If you can't find any PM me and I will give you some to start your collection. you can get some good ones off ebay really cheap right now because of all the fakes on there but ask me or someone else before buying them if you are new to collecting. Troy

 

Rascal, If you don't mind I will post the clear picture of a real error of a cent on a dime. Please look all the details of all images on this error specially the lincoln memorial building.


edwin

 

Thanks Edwin for those great photos . I wish I could learn how to master coin imagery. your coin is definately genuine and beautiful. This is the first 1995 one of these I have ever seen. on these coins the dime has to be struck first then the cent. there is no other way for it to be done at the mint.

 

A steel die being warped? Isn't the metal too thick and brittle for that?

Even if it did become convex the deeper parts wouldn't be turned inside out to create such a clash.

Also, a warped die would not completely strike the detail on that side. At least not in the same strength.

 

LOL..... let's not even jump onto the "infamous cent on dime" thing again. rascal, you need to get that coin sent somewhere so we can all be 100% sure because I'm sure that other than me, others want to be more certain of their opinions and thoughts. My opinion still stays as a clashed die error.

You might also want to consider sending the coin to Shane (kryptonitecomics) to take some very detailed pictures of it so we can have a closer look.

 

This coin will be on it's meery way to the best coin expert in the world tomorrow IMO along with the other cent coin so many folks on here moaned and groaned so much about.

 

Oh Gawd! Somebody Shoot me please!

 

Hmmmm :evilGrin:

 

hey be careful what you ask for , remember the bible verse "ask and you may receive"

 

I'm sure that folks who do not suffer from impaired paranoid communication skills know exactly what I mean