Already many years I have these two coins, but here it is hard to get my answers. Sorry, but right now I can't put pictures, so I will try to describe. "*" will mean, that I can't read. Already before I bring my sorry for I am totally untaught in this area. If You would like to get pictures, then I need to get digital camera, but I can't get it today, also I don't know how to take good pictures with old coins. So.. 1) silver, 22 mm, very thin 1.side: in the middle 12 EINEN THALER (little flower kind) around CLX EINE FEINE MARCK 1763 2.side: in the middle - coat of arms (very complicated) around D.G.FRID CH**STP(long part I can't read)LSAX 2) silver, 26mm 1.side: in the midle portrait around: ALEXANDER I CESARZ SA.W.ROS KROL POLSKI 2.side in the middle - coat of arms, 1825, I.B. around: 2.ZLOTE POLSKIE 43 43/125 Z GRZ. CZ. KOL. Edited: Or could You suggest some online catalogue, where I can find at least what they are?
Jap! Exactly! BIG thanks jody526!!!!! Have You imagine my joy, that after about 20 years of having it, now I know what it is?!!! I'm living in Latvia (where the world ice hockey championship right now is taking place) and there was not possible to get information. Where can I get more info about this coin? And what is ~ price of it? I have worse quality coin
I believe the second is a Russin Empier 2 Zloty from Poland. I can't find an exact picture, but this is close. (click to enlarge) The first one is worth a few US dollars. Probably less than $10. I don't know about the second. It's nice to meet you, sir. You might contact the owner of this website. They deal in that kind of coins.
Depending on the grade of the coin and since you can read the legend without much issue, I believe it is easily worth more than 10USD. Can you post a picture if possible?
About zlots Yeah, seems like the first image. BIG thanks!! Right now I can't post images, because I don't have access to digital camera or scaner, but if I will get it, I will post Is there any literature online about these coins? Right now I looked through Google about the first coin and I realised that there are several on sale. The only one, on which I looked more closely, was also from man from Latvia! So, is somewhere literature about how widely these coins was spred, how much they were and how much left - some history of them?
Well, you'll find a bit of history about German coins - HERE To find anything more than bits and pieces on the history, mintages etc for older Polish coins takes a bit of digging. It's not an area I am active in so I don't have any links readily available but I'll be sure to post them in the Numismatic Resources section when I do.
Thanks GDJMSP! I looked it through and of corse there is only few sentences.. I will try to look in some history books..
Hello Kasis, you probably will not find much infomation online as such materials are almost all in Russian or otherwise very specialized catalogue. Perhaps you would like to get a Uzedenikov but I doubt you are going to get it just for the sake of one particular coin. Uzedenikov has rated it as common, so it should not be too difficult to find another example like yours. Numismatically speaking, such coins were originally minted in Poland while she was under the control of Russia. While the inscription is all in Polish, notice that Alexander I is the Tsar of Russia during that era. While the first Polish coin under the Russian influence was minted back in 1815, it wasn't until 1839 that such coins were discontinued as the Russians insisted that Polish coins should have dual denominations. Here are two examples if you are confused: 1839 1 grosz 1835 1.5ruble-10zlots As you can see, the earlier coin was minted only in Polish but on the second coin, it is minted in dual denomination and without any Polish language - an attempt to eradicate Polish. The dual denomination coinage was minted from 1832-1850. Now to think about mintage figures, I think that is the worst representation of how rare these coins could be. Because of the history that Russia had, as well as the Polish resentment of the Russians, one will never know how many coins were actually remelted for other coinages. Fortunately, that makes your coin more interesting. As well as, the current market of Russian and Polish numismatic field is currently going at some unbelievable rate, I honestly cannot give you a figure how much it can be worth, unless I see what your coin grade is like. A figure of 10-50+USD is not going to be suprising thanks to the market trends. Feel free to ask more questions if I didn't include what you wanted to know.
Big thanks for info! If there are some materials online in russian, tell me, for I don't have problems with russian. I will try to place photos tomorrow (I will try to not forget to take coins to my work for scanning).
So, I have scanned the coins. If You want to see them more closely, then welcome here: http://kasis.eclub.lv/nauda/1a.jpg http://kasis.eclub.lv/nauda/2a.jpg http://kasis.eclub.lv/nauda/3a.jpg http://kasis.eclub.lv/nauda/4a.jpg
Hello kasis, the Polish coin is probably a G grade, and hence the value is probably about 10-20USD, depending on the market situation. Still it is not a terribly easy coin to find, and you should check the Polish coin section in eBay. They might appear from time to time, but I can guarantee that they are not too common. Thanks for sharing the pictures!
I was considering buying a 1/12 Thaler on eBay but I noticed the the coat-of-arms is different than the catalog shows for that year. This is the auction I am looking at: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...3&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:US:1123#ht_1425wt_940 and in the 2nd photo that shows the coat-of-arms , there is a snowflake looking symbol in the lower left quadrant , but in the catalog that snowflake should be in the lower right quadrant. I noticed that the originator of this 4 year old thread posted a picture of a 1/12 Thaler that is identical to the 1 on eBay. Can someone tell me if there is an authenticity problem here ?
