What grade would a mint coin be...

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Detecto92, Nov 15, 2011.

  1. Detecto92

    Detecto92 Well-Known Member

    If it was cleaned with a fine cloth in a couple spots?


    I have a 1961 Half Dollar from a mint set.

    The mint set had somehow been cut many moons ago, (before I bought it), and half of the coin had a ugly black coating of tarnish on it from reacting with the air.

    The only way I could remove said tarnish was using a super fine cloth.

    Now there is tiny scratches on the surface of the coin.

    What grade would this coin be in? I was thinking MS-60, because AU means almost uncirculated, and the coin has never been circulated.
     
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  3. rkf

    rkf New Member

    if they put it in slab it probably be unc details improperly cleaned i think that the best you can do good luck.
     
  4. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    It would not be graded. As said, it would put in a Details slab or a Genuine slab.
     
  5. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    OP, the coin should have been dipped, then it would not have the scratches. Since it has scratches I believe like Doug that it would be "bodybagged". You are right its not AU, but it is no longer even MS60 either.
     
  6. Detecto92

    Detecto92 Well-Known Member

    I thought it was bad to dip coins?
     
  7. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned

    It's only bad if you call it dipping. Call it "conserving" and you are good to go! :)
     
  8. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Not if it is done properly.

    80% or more of all older "white" coins you have ever seen, slabbed or raw - have been dipped.
     
  9. rodeoclown

    rodeoclown Dodging Bulls

    You sort of circulated it by rubbing it with a cloth to add tiny scratches which would have happened in circulation by being in someone's pocket, purse or cashiers drawer, at least in my opinion.
     
  10. Detecto92

    Detecto92 Well-Known Member

    What's a good dip to use?
     
  11. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned

    I don't want to say. I might put NCS out of business. You can PM me.
     
  12. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    There are many different brands sold commercially. But pretty much all of them contain the same basic acid - thiourea that does the work.

    More important than the brand however is the experience necessary to use it. It is extremely, let me stress extremely, easy to ruin a coin using them. Any of them.

    It is also extremely common to end up wishing you had never tried dipping the coin. Even for those that do have the experience.

    Best advice - if you don't have the experience, don't try.
     
  13. Detecto92

    Detecto92 Well-Known Member

  14. Detecto92

    Detecto92 Well-Known Member

    Best pic I could get.
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  15. Coinsnake

    Coinsnake MorganMan

    It was a CAMEO!!! What a shame....
     
  16. Collector1966

    Collector1966 Senior Member

    For clarification-- your half dollar was from a *Proof set*, not a *Mint set*. A 1961 Mint set would have contained regular business strikes of one of each coin minted that year at both the Philadelphia and Denver mints. The Proof sets were only made at Philadelphia that year and the coins have a mirror-like finish like the one in your picture.

    Like everyone else has said, never rub an uncirculated or proof coin (or any collectible coin, for that matter). Rubbing your proof coin has relegated it to "impaired proof" status, meaning that it's probably only worth its silver ("melt") value.
     
  17. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

    That's a proof, not uncirculated. Too bad, it's cameo and worth submitting to a TPG for grading and slabbing.
     
  18. Detecto92

    Detecto92 Well-Known Member

    The MS-65's are $75 retail, but proof's only $20.

    I have the penny, nickel and dime from the set as well. The other coins did not need cleaned. I would of left everything original if it wasn't for the cellophane on the half being torn, which tarnished a small section of it. It was not a nice tone, but a solid black tarnish.

    I purchased a 5 coin penny to half snap lock holder, I will put all the coins in it for safe-keeping.
     
  19. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

    Add the cameo to the proof and it retails for more than $20.

    Where did you get ripped for a MS65 61 Franklin?

    I have both a P and D in Franklin series, the P is a 65 and the D 66, and neither one of them was close to $75 retail.
     
  20. Detecto92

    Detecto92 Well-Known Member

    Going by the new redbook.

    I'm going to snaplock the whole set.
     
  21. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

    Oooookay realistically, a cameo proof Franklin 61-63 have gone for around $35 on eBay.

    Redbook prices are not accurate for most anything. By the time Redbook is published and on the bookstore shelves, the prices are outdated.

    My MS65 was $38.50 and the MS66 was $43.75, both purchased 3 weeks ago.
     
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