1971 ddo confirmation please?

ty in advance.

 

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Looks more like die deterioration and machine doubling to me.

 

ok thanks. the O in god and the U in trust made me wonder. never hurts to ask

 

I'm pretty sure i see separation, I think that's a DD. There also appears to be some die deterioration as well.

 

yes this is a doubled die but I'm not sure which die number it is. there are a few different doubled dies for 1971 just like the 1972 DDO's . none of the 1971 doubled dies are doubled as strong as the die #1 1972 coins. I once owned one of the best type 1971 doubled dies and it was about equal in doubling to the die # 3 1972 coins.

 

Just where do you see the DDO rascal? I don't see it.

 

rockdude I know this is a DDO coin because I have owned one of them and sold it on Ebay about a year ago. These are very hard to get a good photo of because the doubling is not wery wide. If you had the coin in hand the doubling would be easy to see. in these photos the doubling is easier to see in the word TRUST. Look at the top right hand side of the R and the letter U and you should be able to see the doubling. These are hard to find and I have only found the one I sold and have never found another one.

 

Did you send it in for attribution and if not, why not? Something so hard to find could have been listed. By the way, what did sell for so the OP can sell his?
Don't see it, not in the R or the U or any other letter..

 

One more question. Do you have the pictures of the coin you listed on e-bay? Thanks

 

Rockdude I think you need to get you some difocals if you don't already have some . I'll try to add a link here to one of the 1971 doubled dies so hopefully you can know that they do exist. http://www.lincolncentresource.net/forums/showthread.php?t=6089

 

I never denied the existence of the 1971 DDO. I do doubt that the OP's coin is a Doubled Die. I asked if you have pictures of the coin you said you sold on ebay. Also what was the selling price. If you don't remember if you sold it or not that's fine.
There are several listings for the 1971P doubled die obverse listings, none appear to be even close to the OP's coin.
Here's some info for you and the OP to help you identify what a DDO is to other forms of doubling.
http://hermes.csd.net/~coneca/content/StrikeDoublingFlyer-PDF.pdf

 

Some closer pics would help.

 

WOW !!!! I like your slogan on the bottom of your posts.

 

Being able to sell a coin on ebay as a doubled die dosen't authenticate it.
I don't see any doubling on the OPs coin either.

 

Did someone try to tell you that selling a coin on Ebay authenticated it :rollling: ? Like I told everyone earlier in this post the doubling on the 1971 P cents is not a very wide spread doubling and is very hard to capture in a photo. If someone is not very well acquainted with these coins the doubling would be hard to see for the untrained eye. I can easily understand that . I still say it is one of the different types of the 1971 DDOs .

 

Well we can agree to disagree Rascal. Based on the pics I wouldn't spend money on it to have it authenticated. Just my untrained eye's opinion.

 

I enlarged the photo a little. See if you still think it's a DDO..


Here's the 1971P-1DO-003

 

I totally agree with you , There is nothing wrong with us disagreeing with each other. Life would be really boring if everyone agreed on everything. I also would not spend money on this coin to get it authenticated for the simple fact that it has seen too much use and abuse over the years.

 

rockdude you may be forgetting to take into account that the coin we are discussing has had many years of wear and abuse from circulation. The doubling on these is very minor to start with and the normal use from circulation tends to obscure some of the doubling. the doubling on the die #3 coin you added the photo of is doubled weaker than the coin in this thread in my opinion. just forget about everything else except the U in trust and look directly at the center of the U and see if you can see the dividing line. If this old coin had not been worn out so much it probably would have been awesome.

I admit that I have made mistakes in identifying coins correctly before and I'm sure all of us have including every expert that deals in error and variety coins , I may be wrong this time but don't think so.If I am wrong I will apoligize to everyone. I think it best when someone asks about a coin on here is to just say we don't know instead of saying it looks like MD. It would be bad for someone to discard a rare coin just because we tell them wrong. from now on I will not call a coin MD unless it is totally obivious in the photos or I have the coin in hand.

 

Just trying to confirm this coin for bryantallard. So we agree it can't be confirmed.