breaking the law (did you know your doing it?)

No apology necessary dude. It's all good.

 

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Well looks like I won't be posting any pictures for a while.

 

Hold On....

There I was completely wasted out of work and down!
All inside it's so frustrated as I drift from town to town!
Feels as though nobody cares if I live of die!
So I might as well begin to put some action in my life!

 

That is the most metal $50 I've ever seen. Bravo sir.

 

Thank you sir! I only regret that I didn't begin the message with; Breaking the what? Breaking the what? That right, lets go break some laws!!!!

 

The law above applies to:

(1) The printing, publishing, or importation, or the making or importation of the necessary plates for such printing or publishing, of illustrations of - (A) postage stamps of the United States, (B) revenue stamps of the United States, (C) any other obligation or other security of the United States, and (D) postage stamps, revenue stamps, notes, bonds, and any other obligation or other security of any foreign government, bank, or corporation.

It is not applicable to United States currency.

The Code of Federal Regulations (CFR), Title 41 - Money and Finance: Treasury, Part 411 - Color Illustrations of United States Currency (Current as of Oct 31, 2011) indicates:

§ 411.1 Color illustrations authorized.

(a) Notwithstanding any provision of chapter 25 of Title 18 of the U.S. Code, authority is hereby given for the printing, publishing or importation, or the making or importation of the necessary plates or items for such printing or publishing, of color illustrations of U.S. currency provided that:

(1) The illustration be of a size less than three-fourths or more than one and one-half, in linear dimension, of each part of any matter so illustrated;

(2) The illustration be one-sided; and

(3) All negatives, plates, positives, digitized storage medium, graphic files, magnetic medium, optical storage devices, and any other thing used in the making of the illustration that contain an image of the illustration or any part thereof shall be destroyed and/or deleted or erased after their final use in accordance with this section.

 

For the mathematically challenged, that is less than 117mm (4.6 inches) wide or more than 234mm wide (9.2 inches) wide.

 

also:

FYI:
If anyone it would be the Secret Service.

The FBI has nothing to do with counterfeiting of US currency, or reproductions, etc.

 

Unless I'm interpreting this incorrectly, how exactly would one make a digital image (posted only digitally and not printed) that is more than "one side"? Are there some 3-D photography methods that would make any of this relevant to posting images on a web-site? I'm confused...

 

All of this applies to physically printing, making plates, etc. I see absolutely no application of this or the guidance posted by the FBI link earlier that has any relevance to scans posted on the web.

Dave

 

Of course... the OP has all his facts wrong in this imaginary scenario. It would be best if he did a little research before posting...

 

[FONT=&quot]I like it to how many here are making it sound like this does not apply to them, and only just stamps funny just shows they are the ones not even looking into this: if any of you have an old currency catalog you would know it was in black and white only. And it is just now they have come out with them in color.
And even some one put up a post [/FONT][FONT=&quot]and did not look at what it said (I made the red marks) that shows you can't do this. But he even did not post all of the law. And it took some time for me to find a good posting on the web for it but did find one. For anyone to say this is meant for the printing of currency only let me ask you this why is the word (TRANSMISSION) in the rule and if you post a pic of your notes on a site is that not an illustration of what you have and isn’t sending it over the net transmitting it ??? [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]and the FBI only severed me with the warrant[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT][FONT=&quot]

(b) For purposes of this section, the term “analog, digital, or electronic image” includes any analog, digital, or electronic method used for the making, execution, acquisition, scanning, capturing, recording, retrieval, transmission, or reproduction of any obligation or security, unless such use is authorized by the Secretary of the Treasury. The Secretary shall establish a system (pursuant to section 504) to ensure that the legitimate use of such electronic methods and retention of such reproductions by businesses, hobbyists, press and others shall not be unduly restricted.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]
[/FONT][FONT=&quot]The Secretary of the Treasury shall prescribe regulations to[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Permit color illustrations of such currency of the United States[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]As the Secretary determines may be appropriate for such purposes.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](2) The provisions of this section shall not permit the[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Reproduction of illustrations of obligations or other securities,[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]By or through electronic methods used for the acquisition,[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Recording, retrieval, transmission, or reproduction of any[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Obligation or other security, unless such use is authorized by[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]The Secretary of the Treasury. The Secretary shall establish a[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]system to ensure that the legitimate use of such electronic[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]methods and retention of such reproductions by businesses,[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]hobbyists, press or others shall not be unduly restricted.[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
[FONT=&quot] [/FONT][FONT=&quot]So as you read the full rule you can see you can’t make any copy and send it or transmit over the web. But you can make and keep a full color copy as a catalog for your records, and if you print that out it must be the size they have given you for this print.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Now I have put the start of the secret service web site that shows this again but they say (the law sharply restricts photographs ) not that it can’t be done[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT][FONT=&quot]
[/FONT][FONT=&quot]this is what you will see if you go to the secret service web site :[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Illustrations of Currency, Checks or Other Obligations [/FONT][FONT=&quot]The law sharply restricts photographs or other printed reproductions of paper currency, checks, bonds, revenue stamps and securities of the United States and foreign governments.[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Any one that is into the hobby would know that at one time stamps was used as a currency and was an Obligation I even have 2 encased postage stamps [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]This part is where I did my search and the first part of it is only about stamps. But it has many parts to it but as the word (OBLIGATIONS) is in every part I would like to ask every one in this post what is an obligations and dose that mean currency????[/FONT]
[h=3]Search 18 U.S.C. § 504: US Code - Section 504: Printing and filming of United States and foreign obligations and securities[/h] [FONT=&quot] [/FONT]

Notwithstanding any other provision of this chapter, the
Following are permitted:
(1) The printing, publishing, or importation, or the making or
importation of the necessary plates for such printing or
publishing, of illustrations of -
(A) postage stamps of the United States,
(B) revenue stamps of the United States,
(C) any other obligation or other security of the United
States, and
(D) postage stamps, revenue stamps, notes, bonds, and any
other obligation or other security of any foreign government,
Bank or corporation.
Illustrations permitted by the foregoing provisions of this
section shall be made in accordance with the following conditions
-
(i) all illustrations shall be in black and white, except that
illustrations of postage stamps issued by the United States or by
any foreign government and stamps issued under the Migratory Bird
Hunting Stamp Act of 1934 may be in color;
(ii) all illustrations (including illustrations of uncanceled
postage stamps in color and illustrations of stamps issued under
the Migratory Bird Hunting Stamp Act of 1934 in color) shall be
of a size less than three-fourths or more than one and one-half,
in linear dimension, of each part of any matter so illustrated
which is covered by subparagraph (A), (B), (C), or (D) of this
paragraph, except that black and white illustrations of postage
and revenue stamps issued by the United States or by any foreign
government and colored illustrations of canceled postage stamps
issued by the United States may be in the exact linear dimension
in which the stamps were issued; and
(iii) the negatives and plates used in making the illustrations
shall be destroyed after their final use in accordance with this
section.

 

i would like to ask you did you even read what you put up as part (C) said "any other obligation or other security of the United States, and" is currency an obligation of the united states?????
so how can you sit there and say "It is not applicable to United States currency."

 

If I were you, I'd stop right there. Well actually, if I were you, I would have never started the incriminating thread in the first place. This public forum can and will be used against you in the court of law, just as if you were speaking all this to the Feds themselves, so remember the one thing you do have: the right to remain silent. I'd take advantage of this if I were you right away. I'd hate to see someone innocent and doing nothing to hurt anyone get in trouble for something so outrageous. Good luck with solving your issues with the Zfeds.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPXnoLAEUSQ

 

There is a reason why images of US currency are printed in black and white in books and other publications — Cost. It is more expensive to print full color illustrations. This doesn't mean that color illustrations of US currency are not printed in media. Sitting on my desk is the Banknote Reporter and Robert Azpiazu's Collector's Guide to Modern Federal Reserve Notes Series 1963-2009. Both have full color illustrations of US paper money.

Read the original poster's first message — He provided a link to the Secret Service Web site which clearly defines rules for illustrations of currency, checks, and other obligations. It indicates:

U.S. Currency

The Counterfeit Detection Act of 1992, Public Law 102-550, in Section 411 of Title 31 of the Code of Federal Regulations, permits color illustrations of U.S. currency provided:

• The illustration is of a size less than three-fourths or more than one and one-half, in linear dimension, of each part of the item illustrated
• The illustration is one-sided
• All negatives, plates, positives, digitized storage medium, graphic files, magnetic medium, optical storage devices, and any other thing used in the making of the illustration that contain an image of the illustration or any part thereof are destroyed and/or deleted or erased after their final use

Then it indicates rules for Other Obligations and Securities:

Other Obligations and Securities

Photographic or other likenesses of other United States obligations and securities and foreign currencies are permissible for any non-fraudulent purpose, provided the items are reproduced in black and white and are less than three-quarters or greater than one-and-one-half times the size, in linear dimension, of any part of the original item being reproduced. Negatives and plates used in making the likenesses must be destroyed after their use for the purpose for which they were made. This policy permits the use of currency reproductions in commercial advertisements, provided they conform to the size and color restrictions.

Motion picture films, microfilms, videotapes, and slides of paper currency, securities, and other obligations may be made in color or black and white for projection or telecasting. No prints may be made from these unless they conform to the size and color restrictions.

The Secret Service Web site includes a full-color image of a US $20 FRN — I hope the FBI doesn't find out.

I'm done with this discussion.

 

I'm still trying to figure out how one would go about uttering (passing) an image of currency displayed on a Web page.

 

Oh haven't you heard? It's possible to email photo copies of cash to places to pay for things.

 

floirdatinman, at least there are a number of Federal Prisons here in Florida so you won't be far from home and your visitors won't have very far to travel.

See ya in 5 to 10!