Pennies Lincoln 11 S, 14 D, 14 S, 09 S- What do you think?

Lincoln cents- sorry mores scans. scans through flips-

1911 S
1911 S

1914 D
1914 D

1914 S
1914 S

1909 S
1909 S

What say you?

 

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Well, the '14-D & S have problems, but I'd like to see the other two outside of the flips. It's a tough call with those scans... good digital photos would be much better.

 

I'll take a shot. Giving the scans all benefit of the doubt...

11S - EF45
14D - G4
14S - VF20
09S - VF30

Net the last three way down in terms of their market grades for the problems.

 

You have got to get some better pics/take them out of the flips.
11-S Probably cleaned, AU or maybe MS
14-D AG-3 and looks to be cleaned/corroded
14-S VF or XF
09-S Looks to be cleaned, AU or maybe MS

 

Hi- Thanks for the responses- I don't think the 09 or 11 S was cleaned- the 14 D maybe cleaned- reverse looks a bit better live.

I have been using these scans and I know they are poor- it seems that it's not very useful and I promise not use post more until I can get pictures. Thanks for trying to help me.

 

Scans tend to make luster muted, ultimately making a coin look like it may have been cleaned (especially when scanning Bronze coinage). IMO, scans are the least efficient way to photograph a coin... It's a last resort. Extremely tough to tell, but I don't think the '09-S has been cleaned. The '11-S, on the other hand, is a little suspicious. Please, please, please post more photos of these coins ASAP so we can further evaluate.

-Brian

 

From a technical standpoint, I have to agree with the grade rlm's cents gave on the 09s, I was way off on that one, I don't know what I could have been thinking.

OK, that out of the way, just a little comment on your cleaning issues. In the state these coins are in, that's hardly an issue. The surfaces of every one of these coins are damaged. That's all you need to focus on, and the degree of that. Forget about trying to be a detective.

 

Hi- here are some new pics of 3 of the pennies above- my second experiment at new pictures- see what you think of the new camera, etc. Much better I guess but takes longer-
1909 S

1909 S

1911 S

1911 S

1914D

1914D

 

1909-S Probably original, I would guess AS, but it might make 63/64
1911-S I would guess MS63, but it might go AU.
1914-D AG-3 and definitely cleaned .

 

Thanks for the response. I guess the new pictures worked out a bit better for you. Fortunately the camera seems kind of fool proof and I hope to be rapidly improving. I had shown that 14 S earlier but I am thinking several of the posts are correct and I am not going to have that one graded at least for now but I think I am submitting these three and will be back with the grades. I may get a chance to do some more pennies this afternoon. Thanks so much- there are so many experienced smart collectors here and I need all of the help and comments.

 

The 14 D looks klike it could possibly have been altered ? I would need someone to authenticate that one for me. The mark looks stronger than I would expect to see in relation to the date and wear on the other surfaces of the coin. It's not one I would buy outright without a professional opinion.

gary

 

I understand all of the 14 D and the 09 S coins need to be authenticated because of the presence of forgeries.