I was called a profanity eBay support for simply reporting coin auction violations...

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by dctjr80, Oct 12, 2011.

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  1. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    Well I understand frustration. I actually tried again the other day, reporting obvious copyright infringement, (even giving them the web address of publisher to confirm), and obvious Chinese fakes that were not labeled COPY. I am all for free markets, but sometimes I rue the fact EBay legally has no liability for what is sold there. I reported 10 BLATANT listings, and never heard one word from Ebay except for the acknowledgement they received the email. All of the auctions I reported closed complete in the meantime, and still no word from Ebay.

    Chris
     
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  3. lucyray

    lucyray Ariel -n- Tango

    As my mother-in-law always used to say, even after my husband died, "..time to buck up kiddo.."
     
  4. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    I suspect he got your name mixed up with mine writing too many notes to me.

    However, the coins you reported have nothing wrong with them for 2 reasons. PCGS is an authorized TPG and is permitted to be mentioned.

    Secondly, those rules only apply to coins listed from USA (not meaning USA coins, but the listing originated here). As odd as it sounds, those rules only apply here.
     
  5. dctjr80

    dctjr80 Senior Member

    You guys that have responded thus far for the most part are completely clueless, the only reason PCGS is mentioned in any of the auctions I reported, is to draw in people whom search for PCGS auctions... Period. Each is a clever, BS way of referencing PCGS which is completely unwarranted in an auction for a RAW coin.

    Raw and uncertified coins
    No grading company is referenced in the title or description. (This is directly from eBays policy on raw coins)

    now have any of you guys learned enough from the 5th grade to comprehend the word referenced? as to refer to? example, "I am a member of PCGS", that is a reference to a grading company and if it is in the Description section of my uncertified coin auction it = violation,,, comprehend? Maybe? or am I :dead-horse:
     
  6. dctjr80

    dctjr80 Senior Member

    also for your information, the auction which still had "no PCGS PGC LBC rarity" in its description, used to have that same statement in his title until I originally reported it as a title violation and it was changed once already.
     
  7. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    280736822139 Sorry, but the rule does not apply to coins listed in Tel Aviv Jaffo , Israel.
    200522588872 We are an authorized PCGS dealer! says nothing about the coin.
    320631490642 shipping "These prices do not include sets or PCGS coins. " says nothing about the coin.
    120669406020 Member PCGS&ICG says nothing about the coin.

    Now, you can believe me or not, but please don't clog up the reporting system so those of us reporting serious problems can actually get a response.
     
  8. dctjr80

    dctjr80 Senior Member

    Ok, I will cede the argument on the Tel Aviv Jaffo, Israel, I was not aware that other countries followed separate auction policies? Nowhere in eBays policy does it state that it must be in relation to the coin being auctioned, it says specifically to not REFERENCE A GRADING COMPANY in the TITLE or DESCRIPTION PERIOD. Now were did you find those three References to PCGS??? in the Description correct, come on buddy this isn't rocket science.
     
  9. dctjr80

    dctjr80 Senior Member

    When a person runs an advanced search on eBay for PCGS and is only interested in PCGS related auctions, your silly little raw uncertified coin auctions have no business popping up as results, this is why the policy is written as it is.
     
  10. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    Yes, Don Quixote. Coins are already one of the most (or the most) restrictive categories out there. Have fun trying to add more restrictions. I would be happy if you could just get them to publish the rules they actually follow. They don't even do that.
     
  11. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    I do believe that this has gone way beyond personal in the responses, so I am asking that we cease this thread's current direction. Commenting on Ebay's rules or actions is within reason, but commenting on each other is not. The original complaint has been vented and specific comments have been made on the original posting, but now it has gone from the original subject to personal remarks on both sides. So stop it now.

    Jim
     
  12. dctjr80

    dctjr80 Senior Member

    I'm sorry Jim, I have just been completely lost on this entire thread. I have at least learned from it that my first feelings towards the eBay rep may have been over sensitive to the reality. But I still believe I was intentionally disrespected by their rep and I also believe that the auctions I listed were in violation, But it appears to me that many feel otherwise on both accounts... I'm lost on this one.
     
  13. 10gary22

    10gary22 Junior Member

    I don't think anyone called you a vulgar name. No way in the world would someone put their job in jeaporady in these economic times just to call you a name, when they very likely don't even know who you are.

    That seems unfair to post that they did. I would believe they either got the name wrong or had a typo. And remember a lot of these people are not in command of American English. So you can set that part aside, and concentrate on the policy violations. IMHO

    gary
     
  14. dctjr80

    dctjr80 Senior Member

    Your analysis is genius gary, it must of been a typo shortly after dear his foreign broken English made him call me a Dick instead of my name and than he went on to miraculously and flawlessly in English write out the rest of the letter perfectly... wow, you amaze and so do the rest of the responders thus far.
     
  15. davidh

    davidh soloist gnomic

    He refered to you by the name Dick. He did NOT call you A dick. BIG difference. Now, if your name was Rooster Lollypop then you might have room for complaint.
     
  16. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter


    What has occurred has unsettled you enough to take a lot of time out of happier things you could have been doing. Most of us have had such happen to us on occasion , and all that results is lost time that can never be regained. Even at the best if eBay would have apologized and fired the agent, maybe you would have felt better, but in actuality, maybe not, and certainly all of the banter back and forth here has maybe caused some scars, not just you, but others who tomorrow may ask themselves, if perhaps they were off base also. One can certainly say they believe someone else is wrong in their opinion, but when it gets personal, it is wrong.


     
  17. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    I am closing the thread, otherwise I will probably give even more infractions, as some people seem to have a burr under their saddle and just wont give up the personal aspect.
    Jim
     
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