1835 Lg Cent and 1864 2 Cent Woody Guess the Grade

here is my 2 new pickups
Sorry for the blurriness of the obverse of the 2 cent



1835 Lg cent..Marshall would you please tell me what variety this is? I am having trouble trying to figure it out.



Guess the grades

shrek

 

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Nice large motto and I will go with N-8 on the 1853.

 

The two-cent piece looks like an AU58BN, but the photos are rather blurry so It may be as high as a 62BN.

The large cent looks AU-Details... Those bangs on the obverse are pretty deep.

-Brian

 

You need to retake that obverse for the 2¢.

1935 net XF unless that gash is from the planchet and I don't think so.

 

I will retake a picture later tonight when I get home from work.

As for the large cent..It was struck through debri/foreign object.

 

An N-8 is a scarce variety though it wouldnt increase the value unless someone collects varities, correct? What was the give-a-way, I am trying to do google searching but having trouble figuring out the differences.

Thanks Mark

Shrek

 

Very nice looking 2 cent piece..~

 

Many folks collect large cents by variety. R3 is scarce but not difficult so I wouldn't expect any premium.

If that's a "struck-through" it was some serious object! Because of its size and location it likely reduces the coin's value.

There is no give away as to the variety on this cent. Tiny attribution factors like lumps and die lines are worn away. Mark made his best guess from lower bust and dentil positions relative to the date. I agree with N8.

If you want to learn to attribute large cents you will need to buy the books. The information is copyrighted and not online.
Lance.

 

And maybe a couple of books. I use the newcomb and grellmans books for these late dates and they are still not easy to do. In this case it was the newcomb books description on the 1, point of curl relation ship to 8 and the tops of the 5 in relationship to curl above. Sometimes you can see some of the other features like lumps, die lines or die cracks - but on most worn examples these features disappear or become really hard to tell.

I guess it could be struck through - I would put it in the XF45 to AU50 range. As for the two center I would put it as MS62 and go with a weak strike.

 

Here are 2 more pictures of the 1864 2 cent piece.

 

Much better pic. Now I can see it, but I still cannot explain the grade it got. See if anyone else can come close.

 

There we go! Nicer photo. I'll withdraw my previous opinion from the judgment of your last photo. I'd call it a 62/63BN. Doesn't look to have quite enough red for a "RB" designation, unless your photos are somehow muting the luster. Nice coin!

-Brian

 

thanks, I think it seems that it has less luster in hand then on the photo. ANACS gave it AU50 Cleaned...

 

Actually there are few collectors of late date large cents by variety; even r.4 varieties bring only modest premiums. They need to be fairly high grade (usually XF plus) to see the die lines mentioned earlier.

 

Well, it is a picture and it is a woody. Both make it hard to read. I cannot argue cleaned because of that. I will even agree with the AU, but I still cannot see 50. I would have to go at least 55 and likely 58.

 

I take it you know the grade already?

 

Never mind posting occurred while I was looking at coins. I can see AU, but not the cleaned piece in the pictures. And yes I was surprised at the 50 grade - it has to netted down because of the cleaning.

 

Humm?

But, yes, I heard before this also.

 

Hummm - I did not see his posts. Not sure if it was blindness on my part or what. I have to recheck - but I could have swore you said I would like someone to explain the grade, before the grade was posted. So I was not sure what was up. Then I got to posting - after looking at some more two centers...and tada there is the grade. Bad timing on posting.

 

You are correct. I said "but I still cannot explain the grade it got. See if anyone else can come close." So would you like to take a stab at how it got a 50?