What are the odds this is genuine?

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  1. Burton Strauss III

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    Burton Strauss III, Dec 21, 2022
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  3. Evan8

    Evan8 A Little Off Center

    Definitely fake. I have seen many of these slabs with various Chinese coins all with the same look. Some would be worth a few grand if real but were selling for around 20 bucks or so.
     
    Evan8, Dec 21, 2022
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  4. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Probably on a par with my odds of winning a gold medal in an Olympic track event.

    (I'm a late-50s, morbidly obese smoker with bad knees.)

    Yeah. Sure. It could happen...
     
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  5. Burton Strauss III

    Burton Strauss III Brother can you spare a trime? Supporter

    I usually say "I want to win the Kentucky Derby", but I'm not a horse and I'm over 3 years old
     
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  6. rte

    rte Well-Known Member

    I like the look.
    Will it cross over to PCGS or NGC ? :D

    ANACS?
    IGC?
    little help here :p
     
    rte, Dec 21, 2022
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  7. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Why cross it, if it already has the oh-so-trustworthy AU55 slab from TQJD, or TPQB, or whatever that is? ;)
     
    lordmarcovan, Dec 21, 2022
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  8. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Aha. The company profile page of the company that made that slab.

    Found this gem of web design. In the brown font hiding against that busy brownish background wallpaper, there are several apparent hyperlinks, which do not operate as hyperlinks, so who knows what's going on there.

    The second non-functioning link features the wonderful phrase:

    "After being screened by professional appraisers and high-tech instruments, the authenticity is eliminated".​

    Wow. Eliminated, you say? So apparently they DE-authenticate stuff?

    Well, that's certainly a novel approach!

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    lordmarcovan, Dec 21, 2022
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  9. rte

    rte Well-Known Member

    I thought the holder was in question.
    Might as well spring for the conservation.
    Buy the coin not the holder sorta thing.
     
    rte, Dec 21, 2022
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  10. Evan8

    Evan8 A Little Off Center

    Lost in translation?
     
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  11. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Ya think? LOL :rolleyes:

    That, or the coin above was real, until they "eliminated the authenticity", and thereby made it fake. Which begs the question: if it's then cracked out of the slab, will it then become real again? :hilarious:
     
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  12. Burton Strauss III

    Burton Strauss III Brother can you spare a trime? Supporter

    And cue the existential angst...

    Or is it Schrodinger's s coin slab???
     
    Burton Strauss III, Dec 21, 2022
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  13. Kentucky

    Kentucky Well-Known Member

    Is it magnetic?
     
    Kentucky, Dec 21, 2022
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  14. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    Certainly an interesting all around operation. :p
     
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  15. masterswimmer

    masterswimmer A Caretaker, can't take it with me


    My thoughts are, if you're going to buy a 'coin' of questionable authenticity from the belly of the beast, you might as well buy a 'coin' that originates from the belly of the beast.

    BTW, nice holder.
     
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  16. Burton Strauss III

    Burton Strauss III Brother can you spare a trime? Supporter

    In a holder from the belly of the beast... Don't forget it's a tripple play

    And there is a nice person in Brooklyn as the intermediary.


    As I said upthread that's why I bought it. It will land in my "box of interesting designs from China".
     
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  17. KSorbo

    KSorbo Well-Known Member

    Does China have any TPG’s that are actually legitimate, like NNR in Russia? Or do they only trust NGC and PCGS? I’ve seen a lot of “slabbed” Chinese coins on eBay and all look similar to the OP unfortunately.
     
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  18. Burton Strauss III

    Burton Strauss III Brother can you spare a trime? Supporter

    I'm pretty sure there have to be some good ones, but I have no clue which ones they are - any kind of reputation for Chinese coins wouldn't necessarily be obvious to me since I don't collect China, don't speak any of the Chinese languages and wouldn't recognize a good TPG if it bit me.
     
    Burton Strauss III, Dec 22, 2022
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  19. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    A good question, and I wondered the same. I also have the same problems @Burton Strauss III mentioned. China is way outside my wheelhouse.

    The one Chinese coin in my present collection is a modern, in PCGS plastic, which I bought simply because I thought it was pretty. I loved the enameled peaches and the little good-luck bats on it.

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  20. Burton Strauss III

    Burton Strauss III Brother can you spare a trime? Supporter

    And further more, how can you not like a company named "Heavenly Spring Rating" or "Sky Spring Rating"?
     
    Burton Strauss III, Dec 24, 2022
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  21. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    One does have to give them credit for pretty names.
     
    lordmarcovan, Dec 24, 2022
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