A Big Easy Penny: 1946O Wheatie

Discussion in 'What's it Worth' started by Daniel M. Ryan, Oct 3, 2011.

  1. Daniel M. Ryan

    Daniel M. Ryan New Member

    [Please ignore the title: I've been informed that I made a factual error.]

    I don't hold out much hope for this coin in the monetary sense, but it's an unusual variety. It's a battered 1946 wheat cent with a mintmark that looks a lot like an O:

    1946mintmark US mintmark expanded.jpg

    A fun find, and proving to be educational too.
     
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  3. ikandiggit

    ikandiggit Currency Error Collector

    I've never heard of a lincoln with an "O" mintmark. I think what you have is a deformed Denver mintmark.
     
  4. Daniel M. Ryan

    Daniel M. Ryan New Member

    I thought it was because Wikipedia said the New Orleans Mint was open at the time. How would a D deform into an O, or something that looks like an O?
     
  5. ikandiggit

    ikandiggit Currency Error Collector

    "TheThe New Orleans Mint operated in New Orleans, Louisiana, as a branch mint of the United States Mint from 1838 to 1861 and from 1879 to 1909 New Orleans Mint operated in New Orleans, Louisiana, as a branch mint of the United States Mint from 1838 to 1861 and from 1879 to 1909"

    The New Orleans Mint was decommissioned as a mint in 1909 so it wasn't possible for any coins later than that to come from there. As for the deformity, it's difficult to say how it happened but there is a fair amount of damage on the coin itself. Copper is a soft metal and it's fairly easy to move devices around. See some of the damage from coin rolling machines..... some of the devices are moved quite a bit.
     
  6. thecoinlover

    thecoinlover Active Member

    Well I know for a fact that no small cents were never made in New Orleans
     
  7. Daniel M. Ryan

    Daniel M. Ryan New Member

    Okay, I understand now. If it couldn't have been made there, and the New Orleans Mint was in fact closed, then I've got something different. I'll edit the original post, then.
     
  8. Daniel M. Ryan

    Daniel M. Ryan New Member

    Now that I've edited, I'll again ask: How would a D degrade into something that looks a lot like an O? Any opinions would be appreciated, as I don't know much about the minting process in the U.S.
     
  9. bigjpst

    bigjpst Well-Known Member

    How about its a Philly mint coin,(which would not have any mintmark, and someone hit it with a center punch and made a crater of sorts. Can you post a pic of the reverse?
     
  10. tbudwiser

    tbudwiser Active Member

    It deffinately looks like a Mint stamp of some kind to me. I don't think the whole '0' itself it PMD... I believe that it is as most say a PMD deformed 'D' for Denver...
     
  11. bigjpst

    bigjpst Well-Known Member

    just throwing out another possibility. The center of the "o" looks like it is deeper than the field around the outside. Could just be the lighting.
     
  12. Daniel M. Ryan

    Daniel M. Ryan New Member

    1946D deg reverse.jpg 1946D deg obverse.jpg

    That's certainly a possibility, but the mark itself is where a mint mark should be. Here's the pic you asked for, along with one of the whole obverse. As you can see, this penny has been around the block quite a few times. Sadly, the reverse has got a few gouges.
     
  13. Daniel M. Ryan

    Daniel M. Ryan New Member

    Could be. I've had to take my pictures at a bit of an angle because they turn out badly straight-on. It also could be dirt, and another possibility is that someone gouged it in.
     
  14. Daniel M. Ryan

    Daniel M. Ryan New Member

    I'm Sending It In To PCGS

    Yes, I know I'm blowing 120 bucks to do so, but I want to find out - to the best extent the service offers - what kind of error it has. That includes the possibility of post-Mint defacement.

    I figure I owe myself a "necessary luxury."

    Thanks again for all the answers I got here. Adding a margin of cynicism to the estimated turnaround time, I should find out in about two months.
     
  15. Melina

    Melina Nickel Addict

    I think it's a 1946 penny that got it (along with in a lot of other places...) where the mintmark should be, pushing out the metal around where it was hit to make an O shape. Waste of money sending it in IMO.
     
  16. lkeigwin

    lkeigwin Well-Known Member

    I hope you're joking. It will come back in a "genuine" holder for damage.

    It looks to me like a Philly cent that was hit with a center punch.
    Lance.
     
  17. mecha1166

    mecha1166 Junior Member

    I see about 5 "O" "mintmarks" on the reverse too! PCGS is going to have a field day... or not.
     
  18. Merc Crazy

    Merc Crazy Bumbling numismatic fool

    Couldn't have said it better, so I'll say this.

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  19. bigjpst

    bigjpst Well-Known Member

    actually now that I'm seeing all the same marks on the reverse it almost looks like it was on the floor in a welding shop and all the spatter and slag was hitting it:D
     
  20. Lincoln Cents

    Lincoln Cents Cents not pennies

    If you are seriously going to get it graded, let us see what it graded. (BTW, I'm pretty sure you're kidding)
     
  21. vdbpenny1995

    vdbpenny1995 Well-Known Member

    Don't send it in. Just give me $120 and i'll tell you it is damaged!
     
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