Post your coins that came from famous collections....

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by panzerman, Dec 11, 2022.

  1. robp

    robp Well-Known Member

    A few medieval episcopal issues:-
    Edward III class 15d penny of York, ex Lawrence, Carlyon-Britton and Lord Stewartby collections.
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    Edward IV second reign penny of Durham under Bp. L Booth. ex Walters, Lockett, Carlyon-Britton, Dupree and Stewartby collections
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    Edward IV first reign heavy issue penny of Durham under Bp. L Booth. ex Lockett and Stewartby collections
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    Edward IV light coinage halfpenny of Canterbury under Abp. Bourchier. ex Delme-Radcliffe and Stewartby collections. An absolute dog of a coin, being cracked, bent, pitted and flat in parts, though at least it is on a full flan. In the absence of any more, thoroughly acceptable. Will happily upgrade.
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    Edward III pre-treaty penny. A Gc/Gd mule struck at York under Abp. Thoresby. ex Carlyon-Britton and Stewartby collections.
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    Edward IV light coinage penny struck from local dies at York under Abp Neville. ex Winstanley and Stewartby collections
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  3. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Papal States
    AV Ducato ND
    Roma Mint
    Pope Paul II 1464-71
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  4. robp

    robp Well-Known Member

    A few tiddlers. These copper farthings were introduced in 1613 to overcome the necessarily small size of a silver farthing based on intrinsic value. They are cheap and most can be acquired for 2 rather than 3 figure sums, but assembling a high grade collection incorporating all the many marks used would be problematic.

    James I Harington 1a farthing with mm. B. ex Blunt and Stewartby collections
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    James I Lennox farthing with mm. Cross Pattee Fourchee. ex Johnstone and Cooke collections. Colin Cooke was Mr Farthing and assembled the best collection of this denomination to date.
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    Charles I Richmond farthing with mm. Harp. ex Morrieson, Deane, Johnstone and Cooke collections
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    Charles I Maltravers farthing with mm. Woolpack/Portcullis. Ex Wills, Johnstone & Cooke
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    Charles I Transitional farthing with mm. Quatrefoil. ex Shuttlewood and Cooke
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    Charles I Rose farthing with mm. Crescent. ex Woodhead and Cooke collections.
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  5. Gallienus

    Gallienus coinsandhistory.com Supporter

    Some ole favorites: If you're going to a big auction, it pays to buy a big coin.

    Independent Chile, 8 Escudos, 1832, NGC-64
    Eliasberg Collection, NY, 2005 (I was at Eliasberg in person but didn't get it there)
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    I really like this one, despite the Details appellation
    Argentina, 8 Soles, Mario Rosas, 1836, AU Details
    Millenia Auction, Los Angles, 2008
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    Poland, King Stanisław August Poniatowski, Taler 1766, uncirculated
    Karolkiewicz Auction, New York, Dec. 2000
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    England, Charles I, Oxford Pound or XX Shillings, 1642, VF-Details
    Rye Collection, I have been unable to get any further data on exactly what the Rye collection was tho.
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  6. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Great coins Gallienus!

    I have this from Paramount Coll. I have not the faintest clue who this was? But/ he had a VERRRRRY nice collection/ mucho dinaros..... lf - 2022-12-21T230919.598.jpg lf - 2022-12-21T230940.545.jpg
     
  7. robp

    robp Well-Known Member

    Not a name that rings any bells. Where did you buy it from? Auction or dealer?
     
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  8. robp

    robp Well-Known Member

    Let's have a few Saxon.
    Aethelred Helmet type of Gothabyrig. ex Vogel, Elmore-Jones and Norweb.
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    Aethelwulf penny with retrograde legends both sides. ex-Ryan. A really nice one of these went through CNG in recent times
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    Edward the Confessor small flan of Frome. BRINE ON FRO. The moneyer is BRIHTWINE, but space won't allow a full name. A rare mint with only a dozen or so coins known across all types.
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    Edward the Elder 2-line penny. The moneyer is THURLAC. ex Vatican Hoard and Lockett. Unique.
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    Aethelred II last small cross penny of Cadbury. GOD ON CADANBYRIM. ex Lockett and Stevens-Cox. Not a thing of great beauty, but beggars can't be choosers.
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    Aethelred II CRVX penny of Southampton. GODMAN M-O HAMPI. ex-Carlyon-Britton, Lockett, Mack & Stack collections
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  9. Gallienus

    Gallienus coinsandhistory.com Supporter

    Stack's: Anaheim, CA, 10 Aug 2016, lot# 20574

    That's the advantage of having a coins website, which I programmed myself in HTML btw. I can look up the auction details and photos of stuff I have. Stuff I missed I now keep as references but on a local hard drive.

    I bid on one of these (Chile 8E, 1840's) years ago from Sedwick's {specialists in Latin American coins}. It was raw as at the time foreign was unslabbed. I should've bought it but didn't as it was cheap{er} possibly back then. Might've been the same coin.

    Just for reference here's the type between my last 8 Escudos and yours. It's the famous Hand on Book type. I got this at Eliasberg as a floor bidder. I actually got in a fight over it. A coin firm and myself both raised our paddles at $2,000. The auctioneer decided to give it to me and the coin firm was pissed and really complained. But what else could they do? Neither of us would go any higher.

    Chile, 1838 8 Escudos Hand on Book
    Mano Sobre Constitucion, (Hand Over Constitution) uncirculated (NGC-62)
    It is graded by NGC but NOT slabbed. One had the option of getting a slab or a photo certificate back then.
    Eliasberg Auction, American Numismatic Rarities, New York, 2005
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    The Paramount Collection does not ring any bells. But I'll keep my ears open.
     
  10. Chris B

    Chris B Supporter! Supporter

    I'm working on rebuilding my coin inventory today since it is too cold to do anything else. I may be posting more, depending on what I find.

    Neither of these are much to look at but are very scarce in any condition.

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    ISLANDS off SICILY, Melita. 218-175 BC. Æ (16mm, 2.83 g, 10h). Veiled female head right, wearing stephanos / Tripod; Punic ’nn to left and right. Coleiro 7; Perassi 52–6; CNS 6; SNG Copenhagen (Africa) 461-2. Green-brown patina, trace deposits, small mark on reverse. VF.

    From the collection of a Malta Numismatic Society board member. Ex Gustav Pisani Collection.

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    ISLANDS off SICILY, Melita. 150-146 BC. Æ (25.5mm, 11.13 g, 12h). Head of Isis left, wearing ouraios; grain ear to left / Osiris kneeling left, holding flail and scepter. Coleiro 4; Perassi 25–40; CNS 8; SNG Copenhagen (Vol. 8) 465–6. Green-brown patina, a couple scratches on obverse. Fine.

    From the collection of a Malta Numismatic Society board member. Ex Gustav Pisani Collection.
     
  11. 7Jags

    7Jags Well-Known Member

    ex- Colin Adams Halfcrowns, Spink
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    ex-Baldwin's, ex-Derwent Wood's Widow (presented her by the Royal Mint after his death)
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    ex-Pretoria Mint, part of the Only Known Extant 1922/24 Satin Specimen Set (2 pcs minted)

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  12. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Really RARE specimens! Thanks for sharing
     
  13. robp

    robp Well-Known Member

    A few more Civil War pieces

    A W/SA groat with rose/helmet marks. Much rarer than the lis/helmet marked coins, this piece appears to be the only unimpaired example outside the BM. ex. Montagu, O'Hagan, Roth, Morrieson, Ryan, Baldwin and Brady collections. Had to wait 8 years for this to reappear after the Brady sale.
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    Another groat, this time from Oxford. Morrieson 1644 F-2 with a Rawlins signed bust, ex Hamilton-Smith, Lockett, Asherson & Brady. The other one is in the BM.
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    Bristol 1643 halfcrown with the early flat crown horseman. ex Ready, Hamilton-Smith, Lockett, Asherson, Morris and Christensen collections.
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    W/SA halfcrown with Allen dies I-40, ex Walters, Lockett, Asherson & Dawson collections. One of two examples known, the other being ex Morrieson 564 and Ryan 1316 - last seen in 1952 and I haven't a clue where it is. The Boar's Head mark seen on the reverse is known on 12 coins, the pair of halfcrowns, one shilling and nine sixpences.
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    1643 Oxford halfcrown with Morrieson dies K-28. The large plume seen on the reverse was used during the period that Charles held his Parliament at Oxford from January 1643/4 to April 1644. ex Ready, Hamilton-Smith, Ryan, Brooker and Morris collections.
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    Dovey Furnace groat, ex Shirley-Fox, Blunt and Stewartby collections
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  14. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Nice Civil War Issues/ Rob!
     
  15. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Two Brazilian from Santa Cruz Coll. lf - 2022-12-29T094053.568.jpg lf - 2022-12-29T094111.214.jpg lf - 2022-12-29T094140.054.jpg lf - 2022-12-29T094157.935.jpg
     
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  16. Gallienus

    Gallienus coinsandhistory.com Supporter

    I wonder how much of the path of the Civil War you could illustrate with these pieces? I don't see any siege pieces so I'm guessing not into 1645 & later?

    Very nice collection of Civil War silver btw. I'd love to expand my holdings in this area but unfortunately, unlike Panzerman, I can't collect everything.
     
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  17. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Another from Santa Cruz Coll. lf - 2022-12-29T130500.058.jpg lf - 2022-12-29T130520.057.jpg
     
  18. 7Jags

    7Jags Well-Known Member

    Ex-Spink "property of a gentleman" possibly ?? Colin Adams: tempImagevRCUJn.png tempImagezF1oVb.png
     
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    7Jags Well-Known Member

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  20. robp

    robp Well-Known Member

    I'm happy based on the matching toning it is Adams 688 and with an almost certain sense of conviction it is also ex Spink 50, 'Property of a Gentleman in the Orient' lot 801. The header to this section is however somewhat disturbing in that it says that "N.B. The majority of the silver coins have been subjected to cleaning. Where this is NOT the case, specific mention is made hereunder".

    Lot 801 is described as "Artificially toned, otherwise brilliant and practically as struck, very rare". This lot doesn't state uncleaned, so the AT was presumably hiding an old cleaning based on no mention of uncleaned. Whatever, it was bought in 1986 by Grantham Coins (Peter Wallwork).

    At the Adams sale it was described as light rim bruise under date, attractively toned, mint state, very rare.

    Unfortunately Colin's notes don't indicate where he purchased it from, listing only a number of examples, so it could have come from anywhere - Spink, Baldwin, one of many dealers. Presumably in the interim it had been dipped to remove the AT?
     
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  21. robp

    robp Well-Known Member

    Thanks.

    You can do a certain amount of chronology using the coins. The Royalist issues were only struck to pay troops when there was an excess of demand over supplies of regular circulating coinage. No point making work for yourself if not necessary.

    You get the movement of a few marks which would correlate with the movement of armies. e.g Prince Maurice was in command at Exeter and Plymouth in 1643 and 1644 until he replaced Prince Rupert at Worcester in command of the Marches forces effective 1st December 1644. In 1643 and 1644 the mark at Exeter was a rose. This appears at a later date on some coins, e.g. the groat above. In the summer of 1644, Charles left Oxford and went to Droitwich which is near Worcester. Early W halfcrowns had a tower mark, which is also on the Worcester city arms, but this is only seen on obverse B. In 1645, Exeter coins adopt a tower mark. I think this is the same moneyer seen previously at Worcester, who went south with the king, stayed and replaced Maurice's man who headed north to Worcester.

    You can certainly identify individual engravers' movements. e.g. this 1644 C-4 halfcrown (ex-Chesser) from around New Year 1644 uses an easily identifiable E punch on the reverse die, which subsequently was used at W/SA on halfcrown obverse D. This was probably used in the final 3 months prior to the fall of Shrewsbury on 21-22 Feb. 1644/5. Note that roses have also appeared in the reverse legend.
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    I think it is possible to match a good number of issues with the troop movements, but that would be far too much to discuss here.

    Bear in mind that the last field battle took place a few days before the end of 1645 at Stow on the Wold, so any issues post that date (21st March 1645/6) i.e anything dated 1646 had to be for a static location rather than a body of troops suddenly arriving from a campaign.

    I've only included pieces with a provenance in this thread, as per the title. I do have unprovenanced pieces as well.
     
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