My "new" 1918 "woody"

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by I_Love_Silver, Sep 30, 2011.

  1. I_Love_Silver

    I_Love_Silver I love U.S. coinage

    My Father gave me this today (along with a 43 woody) and this one seemed really pronounced. What causes these odd coloration's? It looks to be almost as if the metal didn't quite mix up right or something?? Anyone know?

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  3. I_Love_Silver

    I_Love_Silver I love U.S. coinage

    It was surprisingly hard to get a good scan of it. It looks much better in hand I must say!~
     
  4. Taxidermist

    Taxidermist Collector of US/IL/RU/DE

    Looks surprisingly like PMD.
     
  5. d.t.menace

    d.t.menace Member

    So just exactly what caused the damage?
     
  6. d.t.menace

    d.t.menace Member

    Thats pretty much what it is, an improper alloy mix.
    Take a look here.http://www.cointalk.com/t65353/
     
  7. I_Love_Silver

    I_Love_Silver I love U.S. coinage

    This is MOST ASSUREDLY NOT a PMD. you had better go back to school kids! Thank you dtmenace.
     
  8. coinmaster1

    coinmaster1 Active Member

    1943 Woody? They were steel that year. Not possible, unless you have an undiscovered specimen of the bronze accidential strikes.
     
  9. I_Love_Silver

    I_Love_Silver I love U.S. coinage

    Sorry I noticed that after I posted it..it's a 34. I'll scan a pic and I'll PROVE my every word.

    I have noticed a terrible trend on here. Say you have a nice coin and post it- most like it and are helpful but a few have to be snide (kind of like I'm being now and I apologize) HOWEVER if those people posted the exact same coin it would be the greatest coin in existence or the like... grow up punks

    Lets get something straight right off- No one is going to bully me around on this or any forum! Believe it or not I am a super nice guy, and like you I make typo's. I have been collecting longer than some of you have been alive. I'm a Marine and don't play games. Now if you want to be civil that's fine if not then take a long walk off a short pier.
     
  10. stldanceartist

    stldanceartist Minister of Silly Walks

    Gentlemen, gentlemen, gentlemen...

    Let's just all take a second to realize that the problem with online communication, no matter how many punctuation marks or emoticons you attach to it, is missing the most basic element of human communication: the meta-messages. Body language, inflection, eye contact, volume...these are the fundamental building blocks of determining context in someone's chosen words...and yet are almost completely removed from this form of communication.

    My point being this: you could read the above statement in two totally different ways - one with extreme derision and sarcasm, one as the honest challenge of what, if typed correctly, would be a really interesting (yet extremely unlikely) find. Before this turns into an argument - let's just please agree that it's okay for someone to make a typo, it's okay for someone to make a quick joke about it, and it's also okay for someone to ask a question about something you say if you made the typo in the first place.

    Take a deep breath...no one was trying to bully anyone... (and I say this in the most rational, calming, and welcoming voice possible. In real life.)
     
  11. I_Love_Silver

    I_Love_Silver I love U.S. coinage

    I'm deeply sorry I just had a rough day. I do know that there are many good folks here and I guess it's ultimately up to me to choose how to respond and I guess I failed to do so properly. Please give me a chance I believe I could learn volumes from you all and perhaps contribute in some small way of my own. -Jeff
    So long and thanks for all the fish :)
    I'll cool down and check back later. I meant no harm really just if you have ever had a 4 year old up your butt and little time for hobbies then you understand my dismay. Again, I apologize.
     
  12. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    Yes, it is improperly mixed alloy, but that is not pmd. You definitely have some stripes there. Nice coin!
     
  13. lkeigwin

    lkeigwin Well-Known Member

    Serious woodie, alright. But I can understand someone guessing there is PMD. Maybe a better photo would explain what appears to be a gash down Lincoln's head and cross-hatching lines. The pixilated photo makes it look very rough and beat up. I'm sure it's not.

    I would love to see this one in hand, and to shoot it. No charge, I_Love_Silver, away! Oh wait...that's "Hi yo Silver, away".
    Lance.
     
  14. rev1774

    rev1774 Well-Known Member

    I like these and now that I have a better understanding of what they are it makes it nicer. I would have never looked twice if I saw this on a cent. thinking it was damaged in some way...
     
  15. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    Nice woody!

    Always show both sides when posting a coin. :)
     
  16. I_Love_Silver

    I_Love_Silver I love U.S. coinage

    Your wish is my...well here.

    O.K. here is both the front & back @ 1200 dpi. I hope this quells your curiosity. lol
    Obverse:
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    Reverse:
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  17. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    Now that I am seeing a larger picture, is that grain so poorly mixed that it is pealing? either way, that is a wild looking cent.
     
  18. d.t.menace

    d.t.menace Member

    Yeah that planchet looks like it had some major issues. To me it looks like it was undersize(thin) and didn't strike up very well in spots. It's kinda cool looking like that though in my opinion, like old weathered wood.
     
  19. lkeigwin

    lkeigwin Well-Known Member

    Much better images.

    The streaking does seem to be from improper alloy mix (like all woodies). But the surface damage to the coin is spectacular, and from something corrosive, IMO. See how disturbed the obverse rim is around 7k, e.g.? The are numerous small raised spots on both sides. And there are relief scrapes crisscrossing the coin.

    I'm having a hard time believing it came from the Mint, circulated for years, and ended up looking like this naturally.
    Lance.
     
  20. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    The woodgrain direction is correct from obverse to reverse. I think we're seeing a combination of environmental effects and woodgraining.
     
  21. I_Love_Silver

    I_Love_Silver I love U.S. coinage

    Why is it hard to believe that it came from the mint like that? How could one possibly de-laminate and separate the alloy mixture in a coin? My dad has been collecting since the 1950's and has a very high end collection. We just recently re-connected and him being a minister and all, I sincerely doubt he would, at least intentionally, deceive me. It is what it is I supose.
    Is their any premiums attached to this style of alloy mixture "error" or is it basically what someone is willing to pay and/or sell it for type deal?
    P.S.
    I don't ever plan to sell it as all my stuff has more sentimental value than actual worth and it all goes to my daughter in the case of my untimely demise..
     
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