1969 Proof; Doubled Stars

Has anybody heard of doubled stars on reverse? If so, is there an article o link on type of error, die history, value, etc.?


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Kennedy Half?no but a photo would help.
but here one link that may have a listing.
:kewl:
http://varietyvista.com/

 

Thanks - no photo yet. Camera died. All I have is a cheap USB microcamera that is difficult at best.

I checked out CONECA Variety Vista first and found no reference.

 

Maybe someone tonight know more. but I think I seen one. were I do not recall!!!
:kewl:

 

Added photo for you ...

 

I just don't see it. Machine doubling if anything.

 

NoMD at all...

 

Looks like a Very Late Die State (VLDS) DDR IMO.

Concentrate on the lettering around the rim and pay particular attention to the Ess's and Eee's.

 

pay particular attention to the Ess's and Eee's

Thanks - definate CCW spread with notching of the upper Ess and slight doubling on foot of adjacent Eee. Seven stars directly below and to the SSW exhibit definate notching ( NNW spread).

Spread of both Ess's is CCW with slight N spread notching of both Tee's. Spread of Eee's is difficult to see except for ump on foot of second Eee..

I will send it into CONECA for attribution. :thumb:

 

Nice find, hope it comes back as a good attribution...

 

Thanks. This is actually one of six I have and has the weakest devices other than the stars, in which the spread is more evident. The other five have a CCW spread in the words United States of America with only faint spread in the stars. It's all in the lighting at this point. I need to invest in a cool ring light with variable control (no LEDs!). I work with enough doubled die to warrant one.

Keeping my fingers crossed that it is not merely Very Late Die State (VLDS) DDR IMO as 19Lyds thinks it might be.

 

You said a CCW spread...then if you check the descriptions in the CONECA listings, you must have either the 69S DDR-006 or the DDR-008. When I look at the last S in STATES in you photos, I don’t see the S matching either the 006 or 008...see attached photos of the 006 and 008. You can’t tell much unless you have some photos of the lettering. Actually the AM of AMERICA is the strongest for the 006 and the 008. I would say after looking at you attached photos you only have some minor doubling.

Larry Nienaber

 

Why do people still consider these little tiny things "errors"?

 

Thanks atrox001,

Great pics.

Your're right, while very similar, yours is has a greater degree of spread on the Ess & Eee. My coin displasy minor doubling (weaker strike) compared with yours. Your stars appear to have a EW spread while mine have a NS spread.

While I can readily see the spread in my stars with an optical 10X triplet loupe they may well be minor; it's just that I have never seen that type of doubling before (as I don't actually collect kennedys I just have a lot from broken mint sets), it took me by suprise and I got 'interested' . I am actually dumping a lot of minor coins, was doing a little post "Spring Cleanning" when I came accross them.

I learned last night from a fellow collecor that the 60's & 70's had lots of minor doubling in the stars and as well as other devices. I sending one in for attribution anyway to get a little more educated on what I am seeing.

Giving the rest to my grandkids.

Thanks

 

Thanks for sharing this one

I guess I need to ck out my 3 1969-S Kennedy's!
2 will be easy but as there in slip/book & Pcgs PR-67 DCam won't be easy!!
:kewl:

 

Why do people respond to threads that they have no interest in???

 

I think that if you have one that is like atrox001's then it shoud be readily visible, even through a slab. hope you have one - it would be a treat!

 

Doubled die collection is a nitch hobby that many enjoy. It would behoove you to read up to understand - . check out john wexler's doubleddie.com and coppercoins.com as-well-as lincolncentresource.net. This discussion is to garner opinions on the above photos and discusss what is or is not a possible find. I agree with Calebs comment below if this answer doesn't answer your question - but thanks - it was a good one. But honestly, not everyone may be as learned as you and still have questions about what they see, or do not see - egos aside.

 

On these Kennedy half dollar proof coins it appears that more of them have this tiny doubling than the ones that don't. I found a good looking cameo proof one and thought I had a valuable coin , then someone on here told me the truth about it . They informed me that actually some master dies were doubled and this was transferred from the master dies to the working coin dies. I checked it out and they were telling me the truth. I'm not sure how many years this was done in.

 

Where in the world did this description "tiny doubling" come from? How about "minor doubling"?

Larry Nienaber