Does “encapsulation” mean a coin really crossed?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by calcol, Dec 20, 2022.

  1. calcol

    calcol Supporter! Supporter

    When you look up progress of your coin through the grading process at pcgs.com, there is a blue progress bar that gets longer. First stage is arrived, second is order processing and specification, third is authentication and grading, fourth is finalization and encapsulation, fifth is holder check and label verification, sixth is packaging and shipping, last is delivered.

    I have a NGC-graded coin that was sent-in to cross, and the blue bar shows ENCAPSULATION. Does that mean the coin really crossed? There would be no need to encapsulate it if it didn’t cross. Or is that just a title for the stage whether it crossed or not?

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  3. PamR

    PamR You Never Know! Supporter

    Definition: An encapsulated coin is a coin that has been put into a plastic capsule, or holder (often called a "slab") by a third-party grading service. Encapsulated coins usually have a brief description of the coin and its grade on an insert tag inside the holder.
     
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  4. PamR

    PamR You Never Know! Supporter

    I was not that familiar so I posted definition but someone else will comment that knows the whole process.
     
  5. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    It isn't guaranteed that it crossed. That is just the title for that stage. You will know for sure when the grade posts. Hopefully you get the cross!

    My one experience was different since it was a two coin crossover-it went into that stage and one of the two coins crossed.
     
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  6. mbogoman

    mbogoman Active Member

    This is correct.
     
  7. Jaelus

    Jaelus The Hungarian Antiquarian Supporter

    Take grading statuses with a grain of salt. They can be completely misleading. If you want to know for sure, call them.
     
  8. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    No it doesn't. That's because encapsulation cam mean any of several things. It can mean it: crossed, got a higher grade, a lower grade, or was placed in a Details slab. In every case, the coin is encapsulated.
     
  9. calcol

    calcol Supporter! Supporter

    I accept that being at the encapsulation stage does not mean the coin crossed. However, it was sent-in with the stipulation that it could be crossed only at the same or higher grade. If PCGS feels the coin is ungradeable or deserves a lower or details grade, it would be returned in its original NGC capsule and not encapsulated by PCGS.

    I know because I’ve had that sad experience before. The experience was more than sad, it was irritating because they don’t tell you what grade they think the coin is. So, if you decide that going down one notch in grade is OK after all, you have to send it in again with that lower grade being permissible. But if they think it’s lower than that, you get it back again in its NGC capsule wondering what grade they really think it is.

    One thing I don’t do with PCGS is crack out a NGC coin or send in a NGC slab with any grade being allowed. It could come back with a details or much lower grade. Worse case, it might come back as ungradeable.

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  10. Jaelus

    Jaelus The Hungarian Antiquarian Supporter

    You're reading WAY more meaning into the statuses than they have. It's just an indication of what step in the process your coin is at, and frequently it's not even right. The statuses are only loosely meaningful. Again, just call them and ask.
     
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