Did I buy a Proof Seated Liberty Half?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by snewman, Aug 26, 2011.

  1. Lugia

    Lugia ye olde UScoin enthusiast

    for 100 i think that is an awesome grab. i would also agree with sending it to NCS.
     
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  3. amassey08873

    amassey08873 Always Learning

    Either way its one heck of a grab. I recommend a product called MS-70. I just tried it on a Proof SAE that had hazing and blotches of something on it. The results were amazing!! Good Luck hope it comes back PF or even PL.
     
  4. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I'd have to say not a Proof. IMO the strike isn't good enough and the corners of the rims do not appear to be squared off. I'd have to go with PL.

    I think I would send that one in to NCS though.
     
  5. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Bad idea, ammonia turns silver black. I could see using acetone, maybe. But I doubt it will be much help in this case.
     
  6. Lon Chaney

    Lon Chaney Well-Known Member

    If you send it to NCS, make sure to post an after photo. I'd like to see what they do with it.
     
  7. USS656

    USS656 Here to Learn Supporter

    I agree!
     
  8. USS656

    USS656 Here to Learn Supporter

    I currently have a coin at NCS, when it comes back I will update my thread. I am anxious to see what they can do!
     
  9. snewman

    snewman Active Member

    NCS did an amazing job on an early Mercury dime of mine, so I'd be happy to use them again.. even for just a consult. I'll pull the half dollar out of the acetone in a few hours.
     
  10. Doug21

    Doug21 Coin Hoarder

    I vote proof
     
  11. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    Proof is what I would grade it???
    I seen grades in PR-55 to PR-67DC in seated half's.but this one should be PR-60 Cameo??? at the least.

     
  12. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    At first I thought this was not a proof (rims don't look square enough). The more I look at it the more I think it might be (particularly the strike characteristics, as well as the mirroring inside the shield).

    I'd check two sources to try and tell. First, Heritage Archives. Second, Breen's Proof Encyclopedia.
     
  13. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

  14. princeofwaldo

    princeofwaldo Grateful To Be eX-I/T!

    I'll post an example later this evening of "before and after" using the Windex method. Agree, ammonia isn't something you would want the coin to sit and soak in. However, a quick dip followed by extensive flush with clean water provides some remarkable results, especially on proofs. Doesn't seem to do much on uncirculated coins, especially copper. Acetone being a solvent, it will disolve all sorts of contamination from the surface of a coin, but if that contamination has already reacted with the metal (PVC damage for instance) part of the coin is going to be removed along with it. I supose for some applications it would be great, in particular, tar or other oil based adhesions on the surface of a coin. Much like you observed, I don't think it will do much for the coin in this thread.
     
  15. snewman

    snewman Active Member

    Here's the soaked/rinsed photos. Noticeable improvement. May do another round tonight.

    1871_pr2_2.jpg 1871_pr1_2.jpg


    Here's the original one again. Note how the LIBERTY is so grungy and all.

    1871_pr1.jpg

    Appreciate all the tips/thoughts!
     
  16. Merc Crazy

    Merc Crazy Bumbling numismatic fool

    I think it's a proof.
     
  17. dctjr80

    dctjr80 Senior Member

    If you send a dirty but otherwise un damaged coin to ncs, can they conserve it in such a way that it can still go on to get a complete grade, not just a detailed/cleaned grade?
     
  18. Merc Crazy

    Merc Crazy Bumbling numismatic fool

    They don't guarantee that, but they are professional conservators that really do good work on coins. So more often than not, it comes back without a details or genuine slab.
     
  19. dctjr80

    dctjr80 Senior Member

    Thank you for your fast response!
     
  20. snewman

    snewman Active Member

    Just picked up the Breen Proof Encyclopedia from a local used bookstore for cheap. Unfortunately, the text is rather limited and no pictures for this year. Think the auction archives is the way to go here.
     
  21. valente151

    valente151 Mr. AU64, Jr.

    Lucky. There isn't a single book store around me that sells coin books and the coin stores here don't either.
     
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